nothing to do with touch rugby but common sense if a payer is injured looks like he DO NOT try to lift him up not rocket science really is it ?

do we want our game gone as the fans refuse to accept the dangers the players are facing? or do we try to mitigate these for the game to continue, literally some fans clearly dont care about the safety of their players and are ok with them suffering after their career is over !!!!

I think everyone is behind player welfare and protecting the players, it's about how this applied that grinds my gears, and giving appropriate sanctions and the inconsistent nature.

You mentioned concussions (I'd also add Lachlan Coote and Kevin Brown, and a number of others). So how come Tommy Makinson has five instances cited for high tackles (yes I know only one was charged but five made contact with the head) he gets a fine. Whereas Vaughan tugs at a shirt of a player returning to his feet obviously taking the mickey and gets 4 games four games. I've said before the previous precedents (SKD, mata'utia) are not the same action (SKD had just clobbered him with a high shot so there was potential to be injured. Levi was on his back making no attempt to get up). It just sends out the wrong message and the priority is wrong however good natured the intent.

No idea how Makinson keeps getting away with it, his head shot record shames O'Loughlin. Neither of his high tackles in the Wire game were deserving of a ban but he needs to start receiving some cumulative punishment - he's a dirty so and so.

Still not sure how Batchelor wasn't cited - not a ban but it was a high shot and an 8 point try to boot.

I think the ruling in place for moving a potentially injured player is absolutely valid, but there is clearly a difference in what Vaughan did, give out a ban if its to send out a message, 2 games. But 4 games for that is crazy, should be much more of a sliding scale if we have to stick so rigidly to the gradings.

To counter the doom and gloom of people giving up on the sport, a 25% increase in our attendances is great considering the season we have had. I appreciate it was off a low base in 2022, but still our highest avg attendance since 2016 - our last LLS year - almost 11k avg for the season. Makes you wonder what a sustained period of success would bring in terms of attendances, I think they'd be looking to extend the HJ. Good news for the league as a whole too, with highest avg attendance since 2012 for SL overall. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... -per-cent/ Sort out the disciplinary, get rid of six again's and we can keep progressing.

To counter the doom and gloom of people giving up on the sport, a 25% increase in our attendances is great considering the season we have had. I appreciate it was off a low base in 2022, but still our highest avg attendance since 2016 - our last LLS year - almost 11k avg for the season. Makes you wonder what a sustained period of success would bring in terms of attendances, I think they'd be looking to extend the HJ. Good news for the league as a whole too, with highest avg attendance since 2012 for SL overall. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... -per-cent/ Sort out the disciplinary, get rid of six again's and we can keep progressing.

If you get a four match ban for touching someone on the basis they could be injured with no better evidence than 'they are moving a bit slowly', anyone who has tackled Dudson this year should have received multi-game suspensions.

Great Post!!

4 matches for that is over the top, but Vaughan can count himself lucky he wasn't sent-off as the Stains player in question, Matautia, got red-carded and suffered a ban for doing the exact same thing last season.

I totally agree, and have not posted for over a week.
The skill has all been coached out of the game, there's not a fair 10 meters at the play the ball, then there's disciplinary committees senseless decisions. The joy that I felt during the world cup games at the HJS has been consigned to history. Superleague is just a shadow of what our game used to be.

Tonight could be another nail in the coffin for me as a spectator; if we blow it, Salford and Leigh win and that lot from up the road somehow get the LLS after being dog poop for large parts of the year (remember all the wellens out threads on red vee!?) then I just may be done with this joke of a game.

We are probably seeing a reaction from a couple of blokes who genuinely like to get on with the game .Unfortunately, cheating is now creeping into the game but at least Hull seem to have got over the glut of timely injuries that used to blight every game a few years ago.

How will you feel if Wire actually make 6th and then go on a winning run and win the Grand Final after being considerably more dog poop than Saints.

Actually being sent off in the last few minutes and getting three matches would have been preferable to a four match ban, at least that way he could have made the Grand final (its the hope that kills you)

Aside from overjoyed, because we've finally won it, also pleased that there's another name on that trophy because the last four years have been boring AF, as the kids would say. My issue is more with how boring having the same winner every year is, not necessarily where they finished.

I thought I was the lone Moaning Minnie when I walked away from the game five seasons ago and not attended ever since. One post got it spot on when he posted the game is now over coached. In my opinion the rot set in with Wane at Wigan when he introduced wrestling as part of the training regime and made the game as dull as GrecoRoman wrestling. He also insisted that at least three of his defenders be involved in tackling the player with the ball and remove themselves as slowly as possible. Gone are the days of kidology,dummies,sidesteps and changes of pace,skills developed as kids in the schoolyard. It's biff bash and constant kicking to barge over from short range for the try. If skill ever returns to the sport I'll be back but I won't hold my breath waiting.