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Quote: ninearches "Unless something radical is done about this year's debacle (CC excepted) , the most glaring deficiency will be poor season ticket sales for next year. How a so called top club & players can just expect wage paying supporters just to "suck it up" & put up with lack of effort & commitment is beyond me. I too can turn up for the same chosen games as the team.'"

Not quite, they may have selected different gams to you, or even to each other.

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Having no searing pace in the side is one thing, but we also suffer in respect of having no elusive runners. I think of the likes of Rob Burrows who could run in two circles pulling in defenders and then away through a gap that was created before offloading to support to finish off.
Gelling has also partly alluded to this in his comments that Austin needs to step up in that sort of running role icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Superblue "Having no searing pace in the side is one thing, but we also suffer in respect of having no elusive runners. I think of the likes of Rob Burrows who could run in two circles pulling in defenders and then away through a gap that was created before offloading to support to finish off.
Gelling has also partly alluded to this in his comments that Austin needs to step up in that sort of running role
Again though there is no point in out players backup running. We don't play an offload game. It really just takes 1 who can back up the players who make breaks
We have 2 of the best in the league with Clark and Austin. Myler was a brilliant support runner, didn't have much else to his game but a brilliant support player none the less.

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Quote: Superblue "Having no searing pace in the side is one thing, but we also suffer in respect of having no elusive runners'"


searing pace
elusive runners

that stuff only really existed back when the players drank 15 pints after a game.

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I'm no expert on RL tactics but it seems that a lot of our passes are so flat that the receiving players have no time to do anything before they are tackled. Compare that to other sides, particularly the top 3, who have deeper runners who have time to receive the ball, sidestep, run at gaps, or simply just pass outside a split second before being tackled, by which time they have dragged defenders out of position leaving space for their team mates.

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Quote: TF and the wire "I'm no expert on RL tactics but it seems that a lot of our passes are so flat that the receiving players have no time to do anything before they are tackled. Compare that to other sides, particularly the top 3, who have deeper runners who have time to receive the ball, sidestep, run at gaps, or simply just pass outside a split second before being tackled, by which time they have dragged defenders out of position leaving space for their team mates.'"


the main tactic in RL is to draw as much attention as you can, into the middle of the pitch, then spread it quickly to talented athletes.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "the main tactic in RL is to draw as much attention as you can, into the middle of the pitch, then spread it quickly to talented athletes.'"


No, no, no it's 2 drives by wingers, 3 by forwards and then if you by some miracle haven't made a mistake and still have the ball, kick the ball towards your tallest centre. Then repeat the process every single time you get the ball back.

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Maybe it's the darker nights setting in but the more I've thought about it the more I'm gloomy about next year.

I've seen NOTHING that leads me to believe our boring, predictable play will change.
I put this fundamentally at SPs door.
He's got to sort it out.

Getting Widdop is massive and a great signing and we have many other very good players but they've not been playing well for months and SP hasn't sorted it out.

I reaĺy hope I'm wrong, but I can certainly see a massive drop in season ticket sales and attendances next year.

Reasons to be positive....?

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Quote: fez1 "

Reasons to be positive....?'"


I think it's better to spend the off-season with the hope of beautiful attacking rugby and well coordinated flowing moves backed up by iron defence and high levels of flair, team spirit, and determination all packaged together into a wonderful match day atmosphere with the attendance average back up to 12,000+. Or you could watch DVDs of the 2011 season.

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We just havnt got anybody with that initial acceleration, then sustained pace.
The sort that strikes fear into opposition defences, or comes anywhere near a Powderhall Sprint entry level. icon_biggrin.gif

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Yeah i'm not full of joy looking at next season, 1 great signing, a centre not as good as Goodwin and another potentially good centre, a potentially good winger, an 8th-9th choice rookie Prop and a "Surprise" more than likely gonna be a disappointing prop........like if these are the signings that are supposed to entice fans to renew season tickets and get us excited for next season they've fallen completely flat on their face. Definately make or break for price next year.

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I think the best policy could be for the club to issue mind bending drugs to the fans then we can imagine we are watching a great team. All in lovely vivid colours too.

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Quote: ninearches "I think the best policy could be for the club to issue mind bending drugs to the fans then we can imagine we are watching a great team. All in lovely vivid colours too.'"


the club dont need to issue anything.... its magic mushroom season.

get yourself out there before the first frost and get your own icon_smile.gif

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Quote: fez1 "Maybe it's the darker nights setting in but the more I've thought about it the more I'm gloomy about next year.

I've seen NOTHING that leads me to believe our boring, predictable play will change.
I put this fundamentally at SPs door.
He's got to sort it out.

Getting Widdop is massive and a great signing and we have many other very good players but they've not been playing well for months and SP hasn't sorted it out.

I reaĺy hope I'm wrong, but I can certainly see a massive drop in season ticket sales and attendances next year.

Reasons to be positive....?'"


I also find it really hard to be positive about next season. I have a feeling it will be like this season, just without the cup win. I feel a bit like I did in the last couple of seasons of Cullen. We're a team that will be on the margins of the playoffs. We might just make the playoffs (and likely get knocked out soon in the playoffs) or we might just miss out. The Cullen team was far more interesting to watch though.

In particular, I just have a bad feeling about Widdop. I can see him missing a lot of time through injury and one of the alibis at the end of the season when the club brass are explaining why things didn't go as expected will be 'we lost our main signing for large parts of the season' etc etc.

Also I bet we're in for another season of hearing lots of stories about how innovative and imaginative the club are in terms of marketing gimmicks, lots about building a brand and management bullocks.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I also find it really hard to be positive about next season. I have a feeling it will be like this season, just without the cup win. I feel a bit like I did in the last couple of seasons of Cullen. We're a team that will be on the margins of the playoffs. We might just make the playoffs (and likely get knocked out soon in the playoffs) or we might just miss out. The Cullen team was far more interesting to watch though.

In particular, I just have a bad feeling about Widdop. I can see him missing a lot of time through injury and one of the alibis at the end of the season when the club brass are explaining why things didn't go as expected will be 'we lost our main signing for large parts of the season' etc etc.

Also I bet we're in for another season of hearing lots of stories about how innovative and imaginative the club are in terms of marketing gimmicks, lots about building a brand and management bullocks.'"



Im remaining optimistic until the signings are announced. Although it's not looking great right now, we're still looking whilst a lot of good business has already been done. We may gave joked about it but it looks more like we banked in wakey going down and going for fifita. But I have hope as barring gelling we've not really heard much maybe we have everything done and will be announced shortly.

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