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Played 26 games this season excluding internationals. The same as Murdoch-Masila.

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Quote: Wire Weaver "I agree with this entirely. In my opinion a very over rated player, who is a good grafter and captain, but that's it. Has got away with more offences at the disciplinary tribunals than any other player I can remember.'"

I'm in the same boat aswell, i don't get and have never understood the hype around him to be honest. He's just a better than average player that consistantly plays at that level. Good squad player though and clearly well thought of, he's just not for me.

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Quote: Wires71 "Played 26 games this season excluding internationals. The same as Murdoch-Masila.'"


I was quite happy with BMM for a first season, I'm expecting more next year although to be fair he's not a legend

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Quote: easyWire "Wasn't Furner interviewed by us, but KF was more impressed by Price as he was the only one who actually analysed our performances video? I seem to remember reading somewhere that we were not very impressed by the responses of most other NRL coaches during the interviews... Maybe Furner is taking things more seriously now.'"

From what I'm told he was never interviewed as he turned down our approach.

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Quote: Wires71 "Played 26 games this season excluding internationals. The same as Murdoch-Masila.'"

Not sure if this is a good point or not? No question that in a number of the games he played BMM was far from fit.

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On topic, I think next season is very difficult to call eg Saints, lost Barba but should have Walmesley back, and a couple of interesting signings from Oz. We have another new halfback, but look like we need another one as well. Leeds have a re build in progress, that could go either way. Wigan, new (short term) coach, lost some important players, currently I think they will struggle but I presume there are some signings to come. So too early for any prediction from me... I'm just off to remove the splinters from my backside.

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SOL's injury record (of the 26 appearences most of them were short cameos from the bench) and the fact his body is shot is accomdated by Wigan because he can still do what very few modern forwards can - time a pass and put a player through a gap.

No, I wouldn't have him at Wires now, mainly because in Currie we have a player with even better handling ability but most of the forwards who are lauded these days couldn't time a pass if the ball was fitted with a clock.

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If they can avoid injuries, I'd expect Hull to re-emerge as a top 6 force.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "If they can avoid injuries, I'd expect Hull to re-emerge as a top 6 force.'"

No question. They lost everyone of their spine for a period of crash last season.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Here's my prediction

1. Warrington W
2. Wakefield T
3. St Helens
4. Castleford T
5. Hull FC
6. Wigan W
7. Leeds R
8. Huddersfield G
9. Salford RD
10.Catalan D
11.Hull KR
12.London B'"


Wakefield coming second is the most ridiculous prediction I’ve seen. Their recruitment has been bang average at best.

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Not sure about that. They still have a good team and lots of talented players. They've recruited the best out of all the SL teams so far in signing Loholea, Hurrell and Merrin. Three players who would walk into every SL team in my opinion. They still have players like Walker, Watkins, Briscoe, Parcell, Cuthbertson, Ward even Myler is a decent player.

I can see Furner having a similar impact as Price did. I was surprised Leeds managed to get him. He's one of if not the most highly thought of coaches in the NRL.'"


Disagree. Lolohea is really nothing special, he was playing reserve grade for most of last year and is a fair bit overweight. He’s also not what Leeds needed when they’ve got Myler who doesn’t have the ability to control a game. Hurrell was great when he first burst onto the scene but he’s been poor for a long time. I don’t understand the reaction to his signing at all, he’s become a centre who doesn’t really pass or score many but just looks to charge it in and isn’t very good defensively. Trent Merrin was world class at St George but since going to Penrith he’s also been poor. However I think he’s the best out the 3. They could all end up being good signings as I think they’re better players than they’ve been showing but it reeks of 3 players coming for big money contracts that they can’t get in the NRL. I’m not sure the majority of players who you mention are great either, Walker is massively overrated, Ward is injured all the time, Briscoe isn’t great, Cuthbertson was really poor last year (most Leeds fans agree), Watkins’ injury is one that is difficult to properly overcome and Leeds want rid of Parcell. Also, Furner really isn’t a great coach. He was poor at Canberra which is why he hasn’t got a top job since. The only reason he’s come over is because he hasn’t got a choice if he ever wants to become an NRL head coach again. All that being said the standard of SL is so low that a few more signings and they’ll probably finish top 5.

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1. Saints
2. Wigan
3. Warrington
4. Leeds
5. Cas
6. Catalan
7. Hull
8. Huddersfield
9. Salford
10. Wakefield
11. Hull KR
12. London

Grand Final: Saints
Challenge Cup: Catalan

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have you deliberately waited one calendar month before coming out of your hidey hole?

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Quote: AS108 "Wakefield coming second is the most ridiculous prediction I’ve seen. Their recruitment has been bang average at best.'"

I must be mistaken as I recall them being the first to defeat Saints in 2018 and getting pipped at the Bin Dipper Dome 34-30.
Wakefield finished 5th in SL and have invested in props. Something Saints haven't done, that being the biggest area of fail for Saints.

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We should dig out the 2017 predictions so we know who to listen to for 2018.

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