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Quote: morrisseyisawire "Asotasi stats (from the League Express) from the semi -

Tackles - 11, Missed Tackles - 2, Carries - 3, Metres - 20

I was going to put Alex Walmsley's stats in by way of a comparison but frankly it's depressing. He probably makes more metres getting up for a 3AM jimmy than Asotasi has all season.'"



I've never gone much on stats, miaw, I've got eyes, I can make up my own mind, without some Phil Larder clone waffling on. However, those figures for the "waste of skin in the 15 jersey" are, quite simply, appalling/bordering on wage theft.
3 CARRIES? LOVING 3 CARRIES? The 11 tackles, more than likely will involve him being the third/fourth man in, when the grunt's already been done.

Workshy, bone idle lover.

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We ought to get Gary Skent to ask TS about Asotasi's contribution;

Gary: "Well, here we are again Tony, bit of a disappointment on Saturday eh, but what did you make of big Roy's performance" ?

Tony; "Yeh, yeh, they out-enthused us. I thought Roy was Ok, he put in a typical performance so I am a bit surprised you picked him out Gary"

Gary; "But he only made 20m and 3 carries" ?

Tony" " Yeh, as I said he put in a typical performance"

< muffled voice of Roger Draper in the background > " That's fecking £1000 per fecking metre"

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Blood boiling stats.

3 fecking carries.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "Asotasi stats (from the League Express) from the semi -

Tackles - 11, Missed Tackles - 2, Carries - 3, Metres - 20

I was going to put Alex Walmsley's stats in by way of a comparison but frankly it's depressing. He probably makes more metres getting up for a 3AM jimmy than Asotasi has all season.'"


Wow that is just so so poor. For a semi final as well - wow.

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What about England?

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Can't the squad players do something, a la football, for the worst trainer of the week, were the "winner" has to drive around for a week in a clapped-out Reliant Robin.

Simply post these stats above his peg in the dressing room, and the likes of Hill/Harrison/Monaghan are allowed to abuse the waste of skin with impunity.

He makes my pooh itch

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Was very disappointed with England - he just looked off the pace and I didn't think he seemed abe to make the yards. Caught out by opposition footwork too.
I thought of him as a good 3rd prop but not based on that performance. Let's hope it's just a bad day at the office for him and he steps up to the plate next week.

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England suffers because of the comparison fans will automatically make re Hill, ie come from a lower league side, and "hit the ground running". England needs a VERY STRONG end to season, and a v. good '16 season, otherwise he'll be at Wakefield/back in the Championship.
He's already blotted his copybook, re the Bob Carolgees pet impression

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Those stats are shocking. However, asotasi has been doing that since he came yet his name is on the team sheet every week and it isn't him putting it on there. Neither does he decide to only play for about 15 minutes each game. Smith is not stupid and he is very loyal(too much sometimes)to his players, but I honestly don't see what he is doing with regards to this 'player'.

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Exactly. You see the three carries thing is poor, very poor but all I hear on here and on the terraces is Roy only did fifteen minutes blah blah...he doesn't pick nor spell himself.

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Quote: Moe syslak "Those stats are shocking. However, asotasi has been doing that since he came yet his name is on the team sheet every week and it isn't him putting it on there. Neither does he decide to only play for about 15 minutes each game. Smith is not stupid and he is very loyal(too much sometimes)to his players, but I honestly don't see what he is doing with regards to this 'player'.'"


My guess is he's trying to make the best of a pooh situation. He knows he's bought a dud, and paid a lot of money for the privilege. He's just trying to cover up the mess, by giving him a few minutes at a time.

We should've paid the lover off, and have done with it. We'd be better blooding someone from the U19s

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Quote: Moe syslak "Those stats are shocking. However, asotasi has been doing that since he came yet his name is on the team sheet every week and it isn't him putting it on there. Neither does he decide to only play for about 15 minutes each game. Smith is not stupid and he is very loyal(too much sometimes)to his players, but I honestly don't see what he is doing with regards to this 'player'.'"


I guess TS has kept his faith with Asotasi hoping he will, at some point turn good. I thought he played his best game at Wigan last year in the playoff semifinal and would hit on from there. But no he certainly hasn't- he doesn't really seem to give a crap. Remember the Millennium Magic weekend last year v Saints, (one of his early games where you'd hope he would make some kind of mark) and there was some argie bargie; he blatantly didn't give a stuff about sticking up for his team mates. Contrast that with Sims who for me always gives 100%

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Compared to Hills 18 carries, 39 tackles and 159 meters......bit of a difference!!!

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Just watching the game back, it's Roy who let larroyer get his arm out for his try

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