So if TS isn't involved in coaching, then his job spec should be changed from Head of Coaching & Rugby to just Head of Rugby and Agar's title should then be Head Coach.

But then you say the 2nd part as if Smith is the 1st team coach. He isn't, Agar is.

Ultimately, if Agar isn't coaching the team right, then that it for Smith to sort out. The question is......will he?

As runningman says, Agar's track record in a coaching role is far from illustrious. Moran can't be happy with what he is seeing, it's his money paying for this lot at the end of the day.

This discussion is a bit like driving at night without lights. We could be on the right side of the road on a dead straight stretch. Alternatively we might just have missed the hairpin bend and be heading over a 100' cliff. However, since Moran is a stickler for forward planning, and to have two coaches is expensive to say the least, presumably Agar is the anointed successor to TS. If true, lets hope he has learned to drive by then, and remembers to turn the lights on.

Didn't Agar get sacked by his two last previous Employes also???

I shudder at the thought of Agar being in sole charge!

How are Hull and Wakefield doing .....I assume since agar has moved on both clubs are flying high. ....

I was also made aware that tony smith does not posses level 3 coaching badge how true it is I'm not sure . Surely the RFL would not allow this, although stranger things can happen at the RFL .

I don't get the sudden hate for Agar
2 weeks ago, we beat Leeds with a great TEAM performance. No mention that day, of Agar's influence.
This thread's been started by someone that clearly has a disdain for Smith, let alone Agar.

Briers' (clearly coming to the end of his days in 2013) replacement wasn't sorted
A few weeks later, he announces his retirement. Weeks go by, still no replacement
We manage to get by, in 2014, with various half back combinations (calm yourself, duckie. We know what you're thinking), but we know that the problem is still there. Agar is appointed half way through the season.

We're about a third of the way through the new season, and our problem (which would've been evident to Stevie Wonder, on Friday night) still exists.

The blame for our lack of leadership on the pitch, lies at the door of

a) Smith, for not acting
b) Moran, for not acting
c) O'Brien, Bridge, Myler for not delivering
d) Briers, for doing the crossword/picking his horses/thinking about what's for tea, whilst he's taking training sessions
e) Agar, for only being here for a few months, but still being complicit.

Yes, Agar plays his part in our "issues", but doesn't deserve the amount of vitriol, when the problem existed before he became part of the payroll.

I'm not vitriolic towards Agar, I simply don't rate him. Never have, never will.

He didn't exactly improve them in all the years he was there but that aside there's no doubt in my mind that Smithy felt a bit sorry for his old pal being out of work then had a quiet word in Morans ear that he could be his successor when his contract ends.I'm a gambling man and a bad 1 at that but i'd like to have a little punt that Agar will be charge when the time comes TS has had enough.

Never in aa million years

Moran's already had his fingers burnt, in promoting no. 2s.......stroppy Lowes, anyone?

Just make sure you never say that blokes name 3 times, otherwise your in Candyman territory!

If I remember it right, Agar wasn't dismissed. He handed in his notice and followed it up saying that he was disheartened with building up a team on limited resources to have it broken up again when the better players got sold on to other clubs.

To be fair to Agar, he inherited a decent Hull side, that'd won a CC and got to a GF and CCF later
He got a chairman who had a penchant for 30 year old NRL players, who immediately got injured


At Wakey....well, you can only pooh with the ar53 you've got....