Women's sport = doesn't count.*

*only joking, Chrissie Wellington should have got a nomination at least once.

It doesn't seem to count if the media are to be believed - I'm not a fan of Andy Murray, but wouldn't want to denigrate his achievements this year. Nevertheless, all this no Brit has won a Grand Slam since Fred Perry is patently . Sue Barker won the French, Wade won a US and an Australian Open, Ann Jones was in loads of finals. Note that Wade and Jones only won SPOTY when they won Wimbledon...

IIRC it was in the days of amateur Wimbledon when Anne Jones won the title & similarly in 1977 when Virginia Wade won the ladies singles there when the professional players were boycotting Wimbledon. Over the years all our tennis players have struggled to compete at the home of tennis although they have managed to win abroad. Murray,s achievements have been magnificent though & it has only been a matter of time till it happened.

When Jones won in 1969, it was the Open era by then. And there was no boycott in 77 when Wade won.

.....We are seriously comparing Men's and Women's tennis??

Yes, Wade's, Jones' and Barker's acheievements are admirable, but compared to what Murray has done this year, then it pales into insignificance.

Its like saying Arsenal fans should take equal kudos from their Women's side's consistant success than any success their male counterparts might acheieve.

your knowledge of the sport of cycling I see is very limited. Some absurd comments in your post

My knowledge of the sport is indeed limited, But you would agree Tennis requires much more skill and is also a very physical sport, and You would also Agree Roger Federer is the greatest Tennis player ever and Murray beat him in a major final with consummate ease.

Maybe Wiggins does deserve it only four years ago he was ranked roughly the 300th best cyclist in the world...! Whereas Murray has been in in the top four for the last four years....so something has happened for Wiggo to become so good maybe he wasn't pedaling fast enough.............!!!

or maybe that's absurd

either way Wiggo is just as over rated as his close friend Sam Tomkins.......

I do not know enough about tennis to pass comment between Murray and Federer, I do agree though that an element of skill and physical fitness are required.

However in Wiggins case he IS part of a team, that team being a British based one at that coached by a very successful and motivated coach in Dave Brailsford who led the quest in so many Olympic cycling medals this year.

Wiggins was nearly shown the door by him a few years back as he was a party animal who did like a drink all season round. This was the wake up call that he needed in his quest to be the first Englishman to win the tour in over a hundred years and be very successful in 2012. ( does this sound familiar )

He is also GB's greatest ever Olympian, where is Murray in all of this?

The support staff and team around him protect him ( he is the team captain ) from the other European based teams that set out with tactics to disrupt our English based team from being successful. He had 9 team mates in that each of them helped in an individual way to deliver his good times throughout the tour.

Still with me?

On the physical side of things the team set out through the winter to train in Majorca and Tenerife ( high altitude training ) so they are not affected by the thin air that can play havoc with transporting oxygen around the body whilst climbing the hills in different stages, they are subject to countless 1000's of miles in the winter season whilst undertaking V02 max test's and also lactate threshold test's ( not explaining these tests here to scientific )

So you can ride a bike fast? No you cannot and I will explain why, you will not be fit enough to travel 100 mile plus distances averaging 20mph plus as it takes many1000's of miles to get to this level.

Brad is not over rated he is a fantastic athlete in his own right, and for his close friend Sam I could not care less as I am Warrington through and through.

Oh and as a wire fan also a Warrington club cyclist

The Speedo on My Mountain Bike clocked me at 27 MPH down Wally drag with my lad on the back...

imagine the speed I could have got with one of those Carbon Fibre race bikes and dressed in Lycra and my legs waxed........

and on the greatest olympian he's not really is he?
Seb Coe is a greater Olympian he just wasnt able to participate in a variety of events, some single and some team and some madeup comedy events ...(madison or Keiron or Whatever...?? riding behind a motorised bike ...hang on a minute

...)to rack up a tally of medals.

Murray has one event every four years competing in the toughest era of the sport and if he wants to participate in other events he has to play alongside an 18 year old girl or his considerably less talented brother.

Eddie the Eagle was a greater olympian than the sitting down sportsmen

ha ha

27mph love it!

come down the cycle club with us with a speed like that, you will go well in the peleton!

ALLEZ WIGGO!

It seems Wiggins has already conceded next year's tour, saying Froome will receive preferential treatment??

Now call me cynical, but does this not prove how Wiggins acheievement was not the great individual effort that his supporters seem to believe it is?....Yes, he won, but its obvious that he needed great assistance to do so.

Also, does it not prove how ridiculous the actual event seems to be, considering about 80% of its competitors have no intention of actually winning the thing? ...



Its undoubtedly a great spectacle, but as a competition it has many question marks, not least the outside assistance that competitors get.

TBH your post just reveals you know nothing about pro cycling. Given this it's unfair of you to slag it off, or belittle a fella who won two of its biggest prizes last year.