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| Got to agree with LG here. Bailey is a first class tool, see his cheap shot on Chris Riley at Wembley for evidence. But Jon Wilkin? Come on, this bloke is a serious whingebag. In fact, wasn't it him who went snitching to the ref about Lima in the first game of the season and demanded he put him on report. If he was so wound up about Bailey, why didn't he do something about it there and then instead of whining about it in a newspaper? Probably because the last time he started on a leeds player, Keith Senior dropped him with one punch.
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| Quote fez1="fez1"Bailey is a thug and a coward.
His alleged off field antics only support this.
Our sport doesn't need him.'"
Bailey is thuggish. But then so are alot of Superleague players.
Coward. "A person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things."
Anyone who plays RL cannot be described as a coward regardless.
Yes, our sport does need him for this exact reason!
What would we be talking about right now? What would Jon Wilkin & Jamie Foster have to whinge about?
He gets under players skins, he puts them off, distracts them, gets penalties,
And as a Leeds fan, hes had his best season yet 
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| Quote Moe syslak="Moe syslak"Got to agree with LG here. Bailey is a first class tool, see his cheap shot on Chris Riley at Wembley for evidence. But Jon Wilkin? Come on, this bloke is a serious whingebag. In fact, wasn't it him who went snitching to the ref about Lima in the first game of the season and demanded he put him on report. If he was so wound up about Bailey, why didn't he do something about it there and then instead of whining about it in a newspaper? Probably because the last time he started on a leeds player, Keith Senior dropped him with one punch.'"
Or because he isn't a two bit thug, maybe?
If I recall correctly Wilkin was asking the ref to get control of the game, at MM, because lima was doing several bad tackles and, what do you know, Wilkin was proven right and Lima has been doin those tactics all year and has copped many bans for it.
Can't argue with that, really. Only a wigan fan would (cause they think their team is full of angels)
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| He might not be a out and out coward but he does have a yellow streak, typical flat-track bully.
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| Quote Moe syslak="Moe syslak"Got to agree with LG here. Bailey is a first class tool, see his cheap shot on Chris Riley at Wembley for evidence. But Jon Wilkin? Come on, this bloke is a serious whingebag. In fact, wasn't it him who went snitching to the ref about Lima in the first game of the season and demanded he put him on report. If he was so wound up about Bailey, why didn't he do something about it there and then instead of whining about it in a newspaper? Probably because the last time he started on a leeds player, Keith Senior dropped him with one punch.'"
Well done to Wilkin i say. Lima's tackling technique at the start of the season was a disgrace. And he has started doing it again at the back end of the season. He did a really bad one on Jonny Lomax in the 65th min of the game at the Stobart and got away with it. Thing is, he knows what hes doing and will keep doing it as long as he keeps getting away with it.
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| Bailey has had a very good season. I think people's judgements on him are very much clouded by their hatred towards him.
I admit he can be a bit of a tool at times but any incident he is involved in or even in close proximity with he is castigated by totally conflicting and hysterical outbursts. He gets called a coward when he punches people, he gets called a coward if he doesn't punch somebody. The elbow drop on Riley was absolutely ridiculous by the way and i cringed when he did it but he's also handed out a fairshare to big "hard" players aswell.
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| Being a former prop myself, I've always appreciated the enforcers of the game. Boyd, Barrie Mac, Brian Mac, O'Connor, Farrell, Cowie, Skerrett, Morley, Gee, Tallis, Webke, Nikau. But one thing separates these legends from Bailey, it's only ever the little guy he picks on, and when it all kicks off, he's the first one out of the back door, hiding behind a wall of players, pointing. Look back to some of our more "successful" (used very loosely), challenges at TriNations, and you'll find that we used to get in there and ruffle them good and proper, nice British hardnut stuff, always a scrap involving Scully, Faz, Fielden etc, lifted the crowd, team, and got the oppo distracted. This for me, is what we're lacking currently in the national setup. If Bailey could standup to the big men, he could be, quite literally, a useful tool. A minor mentalist if you will, willing to do our dirty bidding, but the annoying thing is, he doesn't have the minerals.
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| Quote Timmy the Koi="Timmy the Koi"Being a former prop myself, I've always appreciated the enforcers of the game. Boyd, Barrie Mac, Brian Mac, O'Connor, Farrell, Cowie, Skerrett, Morley, Gee, Tallis, Webke, Nikau. But one thing separates these legends from Bailey, it's only ever the little guy he picks on, and when it all kicks off, he's the first one out of the back door, hiding behind a wall of players, pointing. Look back to some of our more "successful" (used very loosely), challenges at TriNations, and you'll find that we used to get in there and ruffle them good and proper, nice British hardnut stuff, always a scrap involving Scully, Faz, Fielden etc, lifted the crowd, team, and got the oppo distracted. This for me, is what we're lacking currently in the national setup. If Bailey could standup to the big men, he could be, quite literally, a useful tool. A minor mentalist if you will, willing to do our dirty bidding, but the annoying thing is, he doesn't have the minerals.'"
Exactly!
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| Quote Les Norton="Les Norton"Bailey has had a very good season. I think people's judgements on him are very much clouded by their hatred towards him.
I admit he can be a bit of a tool at times but any incident he is involved in or even in close proximity with he is castigated by totally conflicting and hysterical outbursts. He gets called a coward when he punches people, he gets called a coward if he doesn't punch somebody. The elbow drop on Riley was absolutely ridiculous by the way and i cringed when he did it but he's also handed out a fairshare to big "hard" players aswell...'"
like?
I;ve seen him pick on small people and hide (in fact, he did that not a week ago)
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| Jon Wilkin is to share a room with Ryan Bailey in the England camp according to McNamara. Surely this is a wind up?
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| That's what you want, them settling their differences over a best of three on Streetfighter II.
'Hadouken'.
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| Quote JWP="JWP"That's what you want, them settling their differences over a best of three on Streetfighter II.
'Hadouken'.'"
There'd still be complaints by Wilkin that button bashin' ain't fair!
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