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I'm sure that if some of us on here were the coach and you played the U20's on friday night then we'd we knocked out of the cup.
Lets jsut let TS decide. He's the coach, not us lot. Yes you can have your opinion but ultimatley it's down to Smith. I'm sure he will rest a few players but will still have a strong team out, which will include the likes of Carvell, Atkins, Bridge and King.

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Spot on mark_m.

I think I mentioned it in the OP or following post, we simply just have to do enough to win.

And add Evans, McCarthy, Blythe, O'Brien and Williams to that and i'd expect a 20/30pt margin.

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Clear choice of additions to the young squad would be Solomona, LAnderson (injury dependent), Clarke, Higham, King (all for match fitness/ form reasons). I suspect playing O'Brien and Briers would be a good idea as well so they can work on their partnership before the Leeds game.

Evans and Blythe surely to play.

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Quote: mark_m "Sorry our current U20s team with three or four senior squad additions would be comfortably strong enough to beat Swinton.'"

Beg to differ and of course it is all about opinions but you are doing a disservice to all lower league players with that comment.

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Quote: Marshy1 "Beg to differ and of course it is all about opinions but you are doing a disservice to all lower league players with that comment.'"


It's not ideal in any way, but it's just the reality. The gap between SL and Championship never mind Champ 1, is massive. And an SL team's 20's are better than many sides in the Championship.

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Don't forget that last round Swinton beat Dewsbury away from home. That's the same Dewsbury that Broughton has struggled to get a place in their team over recent weeks.

I note also that Stewart is playing on the bench for Rochdale at the moment yet was a regular for our u20s before his dual-role started.

People shouldn't under-estimate the standard of players in the National Leagues.

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Quote: Paul Youane "People shouldn't under-estimate the standard of players in the National Leagues.'"


A lot of the best prospects in the lower leagues quite often end up at super league clubs anyway so i don't think many people under estimate them, its just with a 450k salary cap they can't have the same quality throughout the team.

Kyle Briggs, Zak Hardaker, Richie Myler and Gregg McNally just to name a few in recent times, Chris Hill looks like he'll soon follow as well. Andy Coley also went from Swinton to Salford and is now at Wigan.

Their will be loads of other examples, they are just a few.

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If they have a knock, replace them and if they have a direct replacment that you would consider playing in a SL game then rest them.

The alternative SHOULD be to use the game as a "training game".

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Quote: Champions Again "
'Show the Swinton players the respect they deserve' - Why not show the Warrington reserves similar respect? In my view the Warrington Reserve side is good enough to defeat Swinton and that at the end of the day is what we need to do - Win. There isn't much point in delivering a cricket score except highlighting the gap in class again, we just have to get the job done. No matter what team we put out, it will still be a great occasion for Swinton and their supporters anyway and they've done very well to reach this point in the competition.
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Warrington's reserves deserve no respect in this instance, they have done nothing to earn it.

I would expect some of the U20s to step for the injured players, ie; Lathwaite for Anderson. I do agree putting a full strength first team out will be of no benefit to either side.

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I think that the main difference between our team and Swinton will be the ability to play the game at speed and also being able to keep at the same level through most of the game. For the first 20 mins or so adrenalin seems to keep the team from the lower division going, but then there is a noticeable drop in intensity. The difference is both the speed and fitness of the players and is ultimately what affects the lower division teams against super league opposition.

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Personally i'd bring in about 4 new players on the fringes but i'd have majority first teamers.

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The U20s will all get a crack against Salford at home with us losing around 9 players for the England game.

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Quote: Marshy1 "Beg to differ and of course it is all about opinions but you are doing a disservice to all lower league players with that comment.'"


I don' think I am. The current U20s team as started the season (and now on top of the league) boasts players like Gareth O'Brien, Rhys Evans and Matty Blythe plus has been added to with seasoned professionals like Jon Clarke. These players train with the full squad and are capable of showing they are a match for any SL opponent.

Personally it would make for a better, more even contest if they do play, I can't see how a game between Swinton and our full team would do anyone any good.

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Quote: Wire_85 "The U20s will all get a crack against Salford at home with us losing around 9 players for the England game.'"


Good point, I'd forgotten about that game. Taking out any players involved with the Exiles or in the England training squad, our team against Salford could look something like this:

Riley; Williams, Blythe, Atkins, Evans; Briers, O'Brien; Carvell, Higham, Wood; Solomona, McCarthy; Grix Subs: Clarke, Cooper, Mitchell, Laithwaite

Maybe we should play a similar team to this one, replacing injured / on loan players with more under 20's or first teamers in need of match practice.

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think TS will be offered the break as there is a 5 player on internationals clause??? but he declined last year against france! so will see

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