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Quote: morleys_deckchair "so you dont want sam tomkins... but you want peter fox?'"


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sorry, where i live that is all you ever hear.

and i do want Tomkins in a season or two. I have said this loads. I want him when he 1) has a position for more than a season 2) cuts out any mistakes 3) matures and maybe 4) is ooc

I have said if it came down to having the luxury of Sam or Benji i would prefer Benji Marshall.

I have always said i want tom briscoe though. In fact i started a thread a few month ago about three players you wish you'd have or something.
think it was current super league
Current NRL and a retired player in their prime

and my current super league was tom briscoe.


I think he is great on the wing. Just look at that tackle in the derby at the KC
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i agree with the people who have said morris, but im not sure which is which, EVER! the one that played for aus this weekend???? he absolutely walked AROUND our defence and looked great in doing so, big lad's absolutely rapid, know how to stop people, and know how to pass them to get to the try line!

would love to sign both of them in a few years. or even sooner if we can accomodate it.
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Quote: Moe syslak "As i stated on the wigan board there is no british based player who is the world's best in their chosen position. It's a sad fact, but it's true.'"


rlAnd you would be incorrect........rl
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Richards is the best winger.
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Quote: WireFanatic III "Richards is the best winger.'"



Well blow me down. gotta feel bad for Sam and Moz. Sort of cheapens their award now.
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Quote: Moe syslak "Although some of the more deluded wigan fans are adamant that it is richards.'"


Quote: Moe syslak "<Wigan fan mode> I'd take steady, consistent Pat Richards because as well as being tall he is the 7th best kicker in SL.</Wigan fan mode> '"


Not trolling here but is it just the fact that Richards plays for Wigan he cannot be entertained as the best winger playing today?? The OP stated "on recent form," now show me a winger with greater "recent form."

Here's Pat's recent form...

2005 Australian GF winner scoring 1 try in the final
2007 - Super leagues leading point scorer
2008 - Super Leagues leading point scorer
2009 - Super Leagues leading points scorer
2010 - Super Leagues leading points, try and goals scorer. Man of Steel Winner, RL Writers Player of the Year. Super League GF winner, 2010 Dream Team entry.

And just to top it off....has just been named International Winger of the Year.

Now, he may not be the most exciting winger winger in the world but with stats like above Im sure any team in the world would have Pat playing for them and I wouldn't swap him for any other winger in the world.

As a side note, Well done to Morley, who I think is well deserving his Prop of the year award......

even though he does play for Warrington icon_wink.gif
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As a goal kicking winger he is always going to be right at the top of the points scoring charts.... are there any other wingers playing week in week out that kick goals?

being the leading points scorer doesn't make you the best winger... it makes you a goal kicking winger.
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Quote: Wigan Stu "Not trolling here but is it just the fact that Richards plays for Wigan he cannot be entertained as the best winger playing today?? The OP stated "on recent form," now show me a winger with greater "recent form."

Here's Pat's recent form...

2005 Australian GF winner scoring 1 try in the final
2007 - Super leagues leading point scorer
2008 - Super Leagues leading point scorer
2009 - Super Leagues leading points scorer
2010 - Super Leagues leading points, try and goals scorer. Man of Steel Winner, RL Writers Player of the Year. Super League GF winner, 2010 Dream Team entry.

And just to top it off....has just been named International Winger of the Year.

Now, he may not be the most exciting winger winger in the world but with stats like above Im sure any team in the world would have Pat playing for them and I wouldn't swap him for any other winger in the world.

As a side note, Well done to Morley, who I think is well deserving his Prop of the year award......

even though he does play for Warrington

all of that is irrelevant, as its just an award based on this year is it not?

noone is denying pat is a great player, but if he didnt kick goals, you wouldnt all bum love him so much, prime example of this is darrel goulding, scored around the same number of tries, in less games(i think), yet doesnt kick, so isnt seen as a lynchpin to your team!
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Quote: Wigan Stu "Not trolling here but is it just the fact that Richards plays for Wigan he cannot be entertained as the best winger playing today?? The OP stated "on recent form," now show me a winger with greater "recent form."

Here's Pat's recent form...

2005 Australian GF winner scoring 1 try in the final
2007 - Super leagues leading point scorer
2008 - Super Leagues leading point scorer
2009 - Super Leagues leading points scorer
2010 - Super Leagues leading points, try and goals scorer. Man of Steel Winner, RL Writers Player of the Year. Super League GF winner, 2010 Dream Team entry.

And just to top it off....has just been named International Winger of the Year.

Now, he may not be the most exciting winger winger in the world but with stats like above Im sure any team in the world would have Pat playing for them and I wouldn't swap him for any other winger in the world.

As a side note, Well done to Morley, who I think is well deserving his Prop of the year award......

even though he does play for Warrington
If Ryan Hall, Ade Gardner or Henry Fa'afili kicked goals they would have been top of the points scoring list in those years - doesn't make them the best wingers in the world, it just means scoring tries in SL is easy.

He scored a try in the Grand Final (there are LOTS of players who've done that) but never got a sniff of rep honours in the NRL (not even City/Country) and is only over here because that is the case - the best players don't move to Super League if they can play rep rugby.

He's a good winger, but he's nowhere near the world's best.
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It is honestly hard to see beyond Richards. I think we should probably bow to the knowledge of the RLIF in this one...
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Not many can finish better than Chris Hicks, some of those Tries he squeezed in last season were the best i have ever seen. I'm sorry but its not all about the ones with pace who go 90 yards when clear 99% of wingers would never have caught that ball at Wembley and scored or scored the one at Odsal in the QF.
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I can't believe an argument is actually being put forward for Pat Richards being the "world's best winger". If Inglis decied to play on the wing he'd be the world's best as would Jarrod Hayne. If there was half a chance of a try with little room to spare, the only player in superleague I would want it Chris Hicks.
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Quote: Wigan Stu "Not trolling here but is it just the fact that Richards plays for Wigan he cannot be entertained as the best winger playing today?? The OP stated "on recent form," now show me a winger with greater "recent form."

Here's Pat's recent form...

2005 Australian GF winner scoring 1 try in the final
2007 - Super leagues leading point scorer
2008 - Super Leagues leading point scorer
2009 - Super Leagues leading points scorer
2010 - Super Leagues leading points, try and goals scorer. Man of Steel Winner, RL Writers Player of the Year. Super League GF winner, 2010 Dream Team entry.

And just to top it off....has just been named International Winger of the Year.

Now, he may not be the most exciting winger winger in the world but with stats like above Im sure any team in the world would have Pat playing for them and I wouldn't swap him for any other winger in the world.

As a side note, Well done to Morley, who I think is well deserving his Prop of the year award......

even though he does play for Warrington
Quote: Wigan Stu "all of that is irrelevant, as its just an award based on this year is it not?

noone is denying pat is a great player, but if he didnt kick goals, you wouldnt all bum love him so much, prime example of this is darrel goulding, scored around the same number of tries, in less games(i think), yet doesnt kick, so isnt seen as a lynchpin to your team!'"



Surely shows that form is temporary but class is permenant. I don't watch NRL but Pat is far and away the best winger in SL.
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