To be brutally honest some of Highams passing from acting half was shocking last night. We looked better when Clarke was on.

well he wasnt on his own then realy ,didnt do bad with a torn biscepe

He's been our best player for the last two seasons. He's for some reason played below his best at present, but I think it's a little disrespectful to start having a dig at him to be honest. He's not a 'neanderthal', he's a grafter, who gets off the line and meets attackers hard and whether his form is tip top or woeful, he gives it all for the cause, you say you'd ship him out, he'd be one of my first picks, purely because he doesn't give an inch. He doesn't do flash, he does rough & tough.

I think his form suffered on the back of the sending off & subsequent ban. It seemed to de-rail him somehow.

Aye he hasn't had quite the 'edge' he used to have before that, am sure he will pick up sooner or later. Luckily, the Anderson brothers are going through a good patch to ease the pressure on him.

My general thoughts are that he is poop. Higham is also a one trick pony but at the very least he has a trick and some pace.

I do not intend to be disrespectful, I am simply pointing out the obvious and that is that Westwood does not possess a Rugby brain....Yes, he's a grafter, I've acknowledged that, but grafters in Rugby are ten a penny...He also does rough & tough, I acknowledge that too, however, there is a massive difference between rough & tough and controlled rough & tough which Westwood seems unable to do.

I am not saying that Westwood is a bad player, I am just of the view that there are many Westwood-type players out there, who are just as good, and more importantly are not as liable to have disciplinary brain-farts in the manner Ben does.

You may think that 1 or 2 penalties conceded won't make much difference, but in reality with the closeness of the competition this season, those couple of penalties could be the difference between success and failure.

Could you give us some examples then. I'm interested to know because I don't think there are.

Westwood himself admitted he felt he owed the team after being banned. I think there is an element of him trying to do too much and consequently making errors he nmormally wouldn't.

I think one or two opposition players make more fuss after the collision because they think Westwood has a bit of a reputation for being indisciplined and thus they can milk a penalty.

I'm with you on this one. I think it is a little disrespectful to simply label him a 'rough and tough player'. He has a lot more to his game, and IMO he is one of the very best 2nd rowers in this comp.

His form hasn't been outstanding recently, but I thought he did a lot of good stuff yesterday despite a couple of errors.

In my own opinion (important point there..

)....Clint Newton, Jon Wilkin, Jamie Jones-Buchannan to name three.

Look, I'm not saying they are significantly better, but what I'm trying to say is that your Westwood's of this world are not irreplaceable. They are important players to any team, but the main difference between them all at the end of the day, is whether they possess any serious weaknesses...I feel Ben's discipline is his downfall in this case.

Not exactly scraping the barrell there though are we. Two Super League and Challenge Cup winning GB internationals and a NRL Grand Finalist. I would imagine all three are paid more than Westwood also.

If that is the company you're putting Westwood with he's not doing too bad.