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| Quote: Alffi_7 "We don't know whether any Hull FC player has broken guidelines at this stage, this article suggests there was no wrong doing.
I wasn't specifically referring to the Hull players, but it may be appropriate. We'll have to wait and see.
But subsequent posts referred to players from other clubs - all of whom should know better.
Let's hope everyone recovers ok and test results for those who have been tested come back negative.
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| This has nothing to do with Hull or rugby league, but just a very recent observation to illustrate why its going to be difficult in stopping the spread of Covid19
I drove through Stockton Heath this evening, and was shocked by how close together the tables are outside the eateries, which are encroaching onto the pavement. There was hardly a seat that was free. If one individual amongst them is carry this virus, then there will be one large outbreak to follow. The authorities should be having a word with restaurant owners with a view to getting distance between, and the tables away from the payment. Common sense is not being used in this one example, and there will be many other instances where the same is happening.
It's going to be very difficult for everyone in the coming months, and that's with attitudes changing for the better. Money and the economy is being traded against peoples welfare.
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "Money and the economy is being traded against peoples welfare.'"
Money and the economy dictate people's welfare, as we are already seeing and will see further over the next decade, so saying we are somehow trading them is a ridiculous thing to say. If you destroy your economy, you destroy your welfare.
The fear is now as dangerous as the virus. In a decade's time, we will look at the aftermath of massive cancer deaths and mental health epidemics and wonder what the hell we were playing at.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "
You have seemed to have moved from their families not even be allowed to go shopping to now just requiring common sense. Quite a shift in one page, about as consistent as government messaging around trips to Barnard Castle. It's good to see that Hull are also playing "responsible parenting" card. Not knowing the circumstances of the hospital visit or the like but it may have been sensible for that player to self-isolate after his trip.'"
No shift at all. Common sense would be avoiding busy shops during a pandemic, ordering food online, the club prepping/delivering food to players houses. Again, I’m not asking for much.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Money and the economy dictate people's welfare, as we are already seeing and will see further over the next decade, so saying we are somehow trading them is a ridiculous thing to say. If you destroy your economy, you destroy your welfare.
The fear is now as dangerous as the virus. In a decade's time, we will look at the aftermath of massive cancer deaths and mental health epidemics and wonder what the hell we were playing at.'"
Reopening everything doesn't stop cancer deaths, it just increases the number of people who will go into the NHS needing acute care and diverts resources away from cancer care.
The only way to let the NHS start to catch up dealing with the backlog of people needing treatment for other things is to stop the covid cases going in.
Also the more people who contract covid, the greater the number of people in the population who survive the illness but suffer long-term damage that requires ongoing health support, which is also a diversion of health resources over the long term.
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| That’s a cover up story. Trying to paste a moral, baby approach.
Bullshat imo.
No details just that. If he gave anymore, it would probably blow the cover up, with irregular dates.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "That’s a cover up story. Trying to paste a moral, baby approach.
Bullshat imo.
No details just that. If he gave anymore, it would probably blow the cover up, with irregular dates.'"
I thought the same.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Reopening everything doesn't stop cancer deaths, it just increases the number of people who will go into the NHS needing acute care and diverts resources away from cancer care.
The only way to let the NHS start to catch up dealing with the backlog of people needing treatment for other things is to stop the covid cases going in.
Also the more people who contract covid, the greater the number of people in the population who survive the illness but suffer long-term damage that requires ongoing health support, which is also a diversion of health resources over the long term.'"
We don't need to reopen everything, just not close everything in the manner we did and are still doing.
I was in hospital in April with covid. The place was empty. I have visited 3 times since for post-covid treatment and the place is a ghost town. Even the staff admit they have never been so quiet and under worked.
The damage we have inflicted by lockdown and mentally scarring people into locking themselves away is something that will far outdo anything covid will do.
The only thing we have learnt is our fabled NHS isn't fit for purpose in its present guise.
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| Wait till the NHS is replaced with a private insurance system, then you will get people scared of going to hospital because they are scared of racking up a huge bill that their insurance won't cover, as happens in the US.
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| Salford should be fine. I watched the game v FC and didn;t see any instances where a Hull player got within 1m of any Salford player.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Money and the economy dictate people's welfare, as we are already seeing and will see further over the next decade, so saying we are somehow trading them is a ridiculous thing to say. If you destroy your economy, you destroy your welfare.
The fear is now as dangerous as the virus. In a decade's time, we will look at the aftermath of massive cancer deaths and mental health epidemics and wonder what the hell we were playing at.'"
Not a ridiculous thing to say in the context of the example. Why are there tables within inches of each other, whereas other places have arranged them at a distance.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Wait till the NHS is replaced with a private insurance system, then you will get people scared of going to hospital because they are scared of racking up a huge bill that their insurance won't cover, as happens in the US.'"
I've no problem with a 'free' health system, but ours is badly managed and abused terribly by it's customers.
Presently, we have a system where we basically encourage people to abuse themselves, knowing full well they will be bailed out, treatment wise, by the glorious NHS.. Billions are wasted on these people, who are then the main numbers when something like a highly contagious and deadly coronavirus pops up.
The good thing about this virus is that it has exposed these people to the folly of their lazy lifestyle choices and should, though I don't hold much hope, make people more responsible for their future health choices - By removing the 'free' care option too, it might encourage even more.
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "Not a ridiculous thing to say in the context of the example. Why are there tables within inches of each other, whereas other places have arranged them at a distance.'"
Nobody is forcing you to go to these venues, are they??
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Nobody is forcing you to go to these venues, are they??'"
Correct, I gave them a wide berth.
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| The number of Hull FC players and staff testing positive has risen to 12 (9 players + 3 staff)
rlhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/53791886rl
All the clubs, but especially Hull, will have to take a long hard look at their protocals. The good news is that, so far, no sign that it has spread to Salford but I don't suppose we'll know for sure for a couple of weeks.
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