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| lets be honest.. now and again Westwood's brain switches off and he goes all captain caveman... This usually leads to him doing something stupid.
i didn't see what happened, but its sounding like a late hit, which resulted in an injury.. so he will probably get a few games.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair " now and again Westwood's brain switches off.'"
That is assuming he has one.
Would have him in my team any day of the week though.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "
I think we'd all agree that we can't go back to the days when forwards would 'hunt' the opposition halves and try to put them out of the game early with late off-the-ball tackles, be they to the head or not.'"
I'm not so sure the Pies have read that script!?
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| Quote: rubber duckie "I'm not so sure the Pies have read that script!?'"
I think they prefer attacking the joints of opposition players as they are held immobile by the initial tacklers.
At least Westwood isn't devious and cunning about it.
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| Westwood is a thug and should be banned the blatant punch to green in the 2013 gf sums him up if anyone's head needs takin off it should be hes
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| Quote: Dans_a_warrior "Westwood is a thug and should be banned the blatant punch to green in the 2013 gf sums him up if anyone's head needs takin off it should be hes'"
You've wasted 10-15 minutes of your high school holidays creating a user account just to post that? Scandalous. Shouldn't you be hanging around Spar shops asking people to buy you white lightning or whatever the Wigan alternative is?
Also, you can't really talk about Westwood when you have the ultimate grub in Ben Flower.
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| The way some people talk you'd think they've never watched rugby league before and have just been raised on football ,there's always been a bit of biff in league and every team needs players capable of dishing it out ,sometimes they get caught and cop a ban ,more often it goes unnoticed by Refs and fans ,get real this is a full on contact sport ,if you can't deal with it ,go watch footballers rolling around like they've been shot at every slight tap
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| I think the 2013 Wigan team at Old Trafford had a blanket instruction from above to injure as many Wire players as possible & win the match at all costs. A great indicator of the club's lack of integrity.
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| Quote: ninearches "I think the 2013 Wigan team at Old Trafford had a blanket instruction from above to injure as many Wire players as possible & win the match at all costs. A great indicator of the club's lack of integrity.'"
Sometimes you have to get your retaliation in first
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| "be reckless, create chaos, mayhem etc"
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| Quote: rubber duckie "I'm not so sure the Pies have read that script!?'"
I would have him no problem whatsoever.
A good hard honest forward. He takes a knock and gives a knock
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| Quote: Cutter76 "The way some people talk you'd think they've never watched rugby league before and have just been raised on football ,there's always been a bit of biff in league and every team needs players capable of dishing it out ,sometimes they get caught and cop a ban ,more often it goes unnoticed by Refs and fans ,get real this is a full on contact sport ,if you can't deal with it ,go watch footballers rolling around like they've been shot at every slight tap'"
I do think there is a subtle difference though.
I (and I doubt many others) have no issue with teams ripping into each other hard, particularly in the forwards. I love the physical contact and the spice it adds to the game. I don't have any real issues with a bit of "biff", but it has to be on level terms (ie there has to be a kind of "mutual agreement" between the players involved).
Some things are not "a bit of biff" and have no place in the game. These include:
1. Deliberate attacks to the head of players who are trying to play the game.
2. Late shots on players who have clearly passed/kicked the ball and who have no time to brace or defend themselves.
3. Attacks on already tackled players designed to damage the shoulder/knee/ankle joints.
4. Biting, gouging, spitting at other players, abuse of match officials (by players!).
5. By definition of the above, Gareth Hock.
Although I didn't see where the contact was made with Gale, from my perspective Westwood's tackle was late and Gale should not expect to be pummelled from his blind side long after he has passed the ball. This is not "a bit of biff" but action that can cause unnecessary injury to an innocent player. However, I've only seen it live and my perspective may be biased or simply wrong.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I do think there is a subtle difference though.
I (and I doubt many others) have no issue with teams ripping into each other hard, particularly in the forwards. I love the physical contact and the spice it adds to the game. I don't have any real issues with a bit of "biff", but it has to be on level terms (ie there has to be a kind of "mutual agreement" between the players involved).
Some things are not "a bit of biff" and have no place in the game. These includeGale should not expect to be pummelled from his blind side long after he has passed the ball. This is not "a bit of biff" but action that can cause unnecessary injury to an innocent player. However, I've only seen it live and my perspective may be biased or simply wrong.'"
How outraged were you over the last few years when weller Harauki was going around hitting half backs on your teams behalf? take for example he smacked ratchford in the face in the play offs last year, deliberately after a break and he was already tackled?
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "How outraged were you over the last few years when weller Harauki was going around hitting half backs on your teams behalf? take for example he smacked ratchford in the face in the play offs last year, deliberately after a break and he was already tackled?'"
Though he was stupid and said as such. Penalty machine and banned too often, I wasn't bothered when he left.
I by no means think our players are angels (remember we have had the likes of Sampson and Hepi in the past too) and they would fully deserve banning if they put the safety of other players at unnecessary risk through foul play.
Player safety has to come above support for any club and I don't think the game is harsh enough on foul play. You only need to look at the paralysis of the player in the NRL to see the consequences of foul play, we need to deter players as much as we can to protect the game.
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