The pi$$ poor ground could well be the reason we are in decline. If everything goes to plan we'll move into a nice new pad (Nicer than your's ) and will have a new coach (Harry/Brian is out of contract) and Jamie Lyon and about 7 other new signings. Could turn that corner well before we 'do a Bradford'. (Cunningham, Wellens, Gardner, Gidley, Meli, Fozzard, Fa'asavalu, Pryce I think are all OOC).

If not at least we'll have the memories

You're right about the coach and the ground but not the team. We had fewer 30+ players than Hull tonight. Given our injuries tonight, we will have half a team of youngsters next week. If anything, our team is more about potential up-and-comings than has-beens, which brings its own challenges.

However, the coach is ruining our play and the ground is ruining our bank account. We presume that the latter influenced the choice of the former.

I trust you jest?

Cant see saints winning anything this season,teams like ourselves, hull, wigan and huddersfield will be up there this season. SO for me saints have had their days.

My take on Hull is that all their key players are in the twilight of their careers, i expected them to beat saints on the opening day and they will probably have a good start to the season. However, I think they will fade as the season wears on and definitely if some of their ageing stars get injured. They dont have the depth in squad to last a full season.
Saints on the other hand can start slowly but showed glimpses that they still have what it takes, even without Long. Think there is a bit of internal strife at the saints at the moment but I still expect them to be there or there abouts come the end although I doubt they will win anything. They are certainly not as good as they have been in the past 10 years but I still think they will be in the top 5.

I love it when people say that we don't have strength in depth

go to the game did ya les? No thought not. I've posted it where I have seen this rubbish! Leeds ripped cas appart enough times to win the game but bomb 3 or 4 brakes/chances with the line begging. Leeds made unforced errors all night and the completion rate was shocking and the kicking game was a non starter. cas held in the there and got a foot hold in the game. Chase short kicking game was out of this world and cas worked had to take the points. Cas were good for the win Leeds were very poor. If the ball had stuck and Leeds had taken the right option we could have won by 3 or 4 scores as it was we blew it big time, take nothing away from cas they deserved the win. but losing by 14 points in cas' biggest game of the season is hardly a thrashing

Yeah, exactly how high is your horse?

any body who knows anything about rugby league knows cas' biggest game is leeds away, a true cas fan will tell you they don't mind having a crap season as long as they beat Leeds at headingley. Nothing high or horsey about that, it's just how it is?

Bigger than their play-off game last season?

No it isn't, each game is as big as the next. I've followed Cas since ever since I can remember, and every "true" Cas fan thinks that? It's just funny that Leeds fans whip this, "You only won 'cos it's your cup final." "We're your biggest game of the season." crap out when they ever lose to us.

what you stickin ya neb in for?

I'm 100% sure if you asked a cas fan would they rather have won at headingley rather than have 76 put on them by Leeds but not made the play offs to get beat by Wigan. The true Leeds hater cas fan would choose beating Leeds every time. I'm sure you can find some cas fan to disagree because I've posted this as a Leeds fan but we all know what they are like when it comes to the rhinos.

Ah your a cas fan and a lier too I see

I didn't say you won because it's your cup final, you said that. You won because you were the better team

No, I said "Leeds fans" say that. You personally said the other one.

And I'm not a "lier", and neither am I a "liar".

Ah the last refuge of the beaten poster! Pointing out a spelling error!

you lose! Enjoy your victory my 10 fingered friend your team deserved it!