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Quote: odemwingie "Some players only look good in a world class team, stick him in the manly team and he would be a world star again but in the wire team, no offence he does not have the quality he used to have around him.'"
Well can he not become a more selfish player at warrington,
just get the ball matt,
head down ,
and bleedin well run........

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Quote: odemwingie "Some players only look good in a world class team, stick him in the manly team and he would be a world star again but in the wire team, no offence he does not have the quality he used to have around him.'"
But then he also doesn't have the quality up against him either, so it is all relative.

There have been plenty of times where he has been in a two on two situation with Penny, one of the fastest players in the league on his outside, and he has done balls all with that. Brent Grose could make plenty of space for his wingers. It is not down to the players around him, it is down to him.

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King is a top class player he has proved it in the past,but now he has let hisself fall down to the standards of all the other players around him.


lets face it warrington are no melbourne storm as much as i want us to be were years behind them and really it proves it.


i recon the training is nothing like he was used to in aussie land i bet it takes the really.He getting paid a very good wage for all.

look at it this way would he walk into the australia team now? or even the melbourne storm 1st team?

No chance i douubt it he could have a good game in there reserves


wot u think

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Quote: Gimp boy "King is a top class player he has proved it in the past,but now he has let hisself fall down to the standards of all the other players around him.


lets face it warrington are no melbourne storm as much as i want us to be were years behind them and really it proves it.


i recon the training is nothing like he was used to in aussie land i bet it takes the mickey really.He getting paid a very good wage for love all.

look at it this way would he walk into the australia team now? or even the melbourne storm 1st team?

No chance i douubt it he could have a good game in there reserves


wot u think'"


I think you are bang on the button.

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Matt King is obviously not as good as people thought. You can't say he's come down to our level, that's just rubbish icon_mad.gif . Players like Gidley and Barrett stand out in any team. King hasn't got the skills icon_sad.gif he's a big strong guy who is effective in the physical, grinding style they play in Australia but we don't play like that here, and it doesn't suit him as much icon_confused.gif

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Maybe we should make him do a morning on the bins.

Give him a reality check.

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As mentioned previously, King didn't make with two or three clubs before joining Melbourne and Craig Bellamy.
Bellamy got the very best out of King knowing where to play him and how.
Previous coaches had failed and Warrington's coaches haven't succeeded yet.
If he returned to Melbourne and Bellamy he'd be back to his best in no time.
How long is left on his contract?

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Rauhihi springs to mind.Comes over here with the tag of world's best forward.Whats happened since then?Turned out a big bag of cack.

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Just another failure in the long list of failures in Dire's pathetic recruitement policy in the past 10 years or so.

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King is playing under a e coach who can't get the best from him.

King in our league will excell at wing rather than centre.

When he was at his scoring best he was able to run at a mis-match in size. Her we have him at centre against big centres/2nd row.

Teams are aware of his rep & he's buried more often than not (some of this is due to slow ball from hsi halves.

King cannot defend 1:1

Hey he's been here 12 months we'll have coached a lot of the talent out of him.

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Matt King has 2 years left on his contract after this season.

Someone mentioned the training in an above post. When I spoke to Matt he said the Aussies treat training as a 9to5 job. I guess here we think they are tired after a couple of hours

Obviuously we need a balance but then again it works down under

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Quote: TheDoc "Just thought it worth seeing if anyone knows the reason he is not living upto our expectations?'"


He's not surrounded by the same quality that he was at Melbourne, it's a team game remember.

Either that or he's like Samson and his power is in his hair.

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Quote: TheDoc "Matt King has 2 years left on his contract after this season.

Someone mentioned the training in an above post. When I spoke to Matt he said the Aussies treat training as a 9to5 job. I guess here we think they are tired after a couple of hours

Obviuously we need a balance but then again it works down under'"
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Thats because the australians train and see thereselves as full time perfessional's and when it comes to the world cup it shows when they play us'"


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Quote: Steve51 "King is playing under a poop coach who can't get the best from him..'"


Rubbish. King playing poop is Kings fault and no one elses.

Quote: Steve51 "King in our league will excell at wing rather than centre. ..'"


He wont excel at either because he isnt interested though you are better off sticking him on the wing as he just isnt a centre.

Quote: Steve51 "When he was at his scoring best he was able to run at a mis-match in size. Her we have him at centre against big centres/2nd row...'"


Bobbins.

King is an established Aussie player and the mismatch should be in his favour more often than not yet he never seems to outperform anyone he is opposite.

Quote: Steve51 "Teams are aware of his rep & he's buried more often than not (some of this is due to slow ball from hsi halves....'"


Teams are aware of Gidley yet he isnt cr@p. Teams are aware of Gleeson yet he isnt cr@p. Teams were aware of Lyon / Hape / Vainikolo and yet they werent cr@p. King being cr@p is Kings fault not anyone elses.

Quote: Steve51 "King cannot defend 1

Are you sure thats not the fault of the coach, the defender inside of him or the defender outside of him icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Rob Wire "Speak for yourself, some of us pointed out what we were getting even before he had made his debut.
.'"

One of the best signings of the SL era you said, then a few months later you decided you wanted to mona about something then said he was something like the 10th best centre in SL, turns out you were right though after your flipflopping.

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