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| Quote: quinny "Erm Noble no....Richard Agar Yes !!
Your attempt at a wind up is about as funny as a Peter Kay gig, as in not funny at all.
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| Quote: karetaker "m.skysports.com/article/rugbyleague//9338520
Good news.'"
Hopefully he'll be going no where and staying with us
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Smith to St George-Illawarra, Noble to Wire for 2015.'"
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| Quote: karetaker "m.skysports.com/article/rugbyleague//9338520
Good news.'"
With these "plays down reports" stories you have to try and read between the lines. If he was leaving for the Dragons he couldn't say it in that interview before it had been released.
Quote: karetaker "Warrington coach Tony Smith has played down reports suggesting he is set for an imminent return to Australia but has admitted he is in discussions with the Wolves over his future.
The 47-year-old has been linked with a return to St George Illawarra, who are being coached by Paul McGregor until the end of the current NRL season following the recent departure of Steve Price.
However, Smith distanced himself from a role with the Dragons, adding that he and Wolves owner Simon Moran are working towards resolving matters regarding his position.
"I'll have a little bit of news in the next week or so but that's unlikely to be it," said former England coach Smith. "I'm working through some stuff with Simon at the moment."'"
Quote: karetaker "There have also been rumours that Warrington are keen to recruit Richard Agar to their staff following his exit from Wakefield, a possibility Smith did not dismiss.
Smith, whose assistants at the Wolves are Willie Poching and Richard Marshall, addedRichard is a talented young coach who has done a fantastic job.
"I'd certainly make inquiries about Richard but I think it's a bit early to make a decision on his future."'"
It certainly sounds like we are going to have an announcement soon and it's fairly believable that Agar will be joining the staff.
Coming and working under TS will be a good move for Agar who seems to have been highly rated by some people within the game for a while, hence him getting head coach opportunities early despite not being a big name as a player, but as a first team coach he hasn't got it right so far. But Agar will not want to be an assistant for the long term.
I do wonder whether the club are talking to TS about some kind of final contract which makes arrangements for the post-Smith succession, where they want to have someone already on board at the club to promote when he leaves. They can then have input in to recruitment so when they take over they have players that they wanted.
The conversations between Simon Moran and TS might be along the lines of
"Tony, we've had some success with a great team but it's breaking up now and needs rebuilding for a new era, realistically are you up for doing another 5/6 years with us to rebuild a new generation and take it forward, or would you be looking to move on in the next year or so, in which case how do we manage your succession....?"
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| Praying that the news is a new 30 year deal for Tony.
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| Theres Some Drama queens on here .. Smiths Going nowhere, theres nothing cryptic in that interview .. New contract will be sorted within the next week or two .
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| Quote: wire78 "Theres Some Drama queens on here .. Smiths Going nowhere, theres nothing cryptic in that interview .. New contract will be sorted within the next week or two .'"
It does sound as though he feels he's not finished with his Warrington Project. He inherited most of the CC winning teams, adding a few players where needed. Now he's got a more substatial rebuilding job on his hands and that in itself may be the "next challenge". Let's hope so. ISWT.
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| I firmly believe TS isn't going anywhere yet. He will eventually move on but his job isn't done here.
I'd love for him to stay until retirement and the quote "despite arguably reaching the shelf life for a head coach, he is happy to stay on at Warrington for the foreseeable future." Gives a little hope to that but we shall have to wait for an announcement in a couple of weeks.
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| I would rather tony smith stayed at the wire than anyone else come on board. Long term an ex player would be my choice to carry it on but that's very long term for me. So long as sir tony wants the job he should keep it.
Some on this board were up in arms earlier this season and that is because tony smiths sides have spoilt us in recent seasons but make no mistake about it, it was tony smith that raised the bar at warrington. Before tony we would probably be really happy to be in the position we are in this season but as it stands we all think we should be doing better.
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| Quote: CW8 "Before tony we would probably be really happy to be in the position we are in this season but as it stands we all think we should be doing better.'"
This exactly. Anyone but TS is a step back, the way he got the tactics spot on against Leeds with such a depleted squad proves that.
He needs to rebuild the squad before going anywhere, that will be his next big task.
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| I think the key to this situation is to get into the mind of Simon Moran. He thinks long term, not short, and he can see 2015 looming which is the end of TS's contract. Far better to have continuity in the job than to have somebody come in without an understanding of the culture of the club, the relationships between the staff, the long term planning etc etc. So I think Moran will want everything sorted out and agreed well before the end of Smith's contract ends, probably by the end of this season.
Presumably, either Moran want's Smith to extend, in which case he could be using Agar's availability as a bargaining chip, or he has decided Agar will take over in 2015 and is bringing him in early to thoroughly familiarise with the club. I think the rumours about Agar being linked with Wire are too strong to be dismissed. Plus as has already been mentioned, coaches rarely hand in their notice without some idea of where they are going next.
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| Quote: CW8 "Long term an ex player would be my choice to carry it on but that's very long term for me. '"
As an ex player Harris could be an option for us in the longer term as I am sure he will get fed up of Koukash's interfering!
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