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| Quote: DJ Birchy Ford Clinic "Their International coverage is just as bad. Lets bring out the biggest Ghana fan in the world "Marcel Desailly" He loves Ghana that much that despite being born there, he plays 100 plus time for "France". ITV is just reality TV garbage, Soaps & crap sport coverage. Only Celeb Juice & Harry Hill worth watching on all 4 ITV channels'"
Now, you've either missed off The Only Was Is Essex, and we can all make a mistake, or you're not on.
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| Quote: JWP "Now, you've either missed off The Only Was Is Essex, and we can all make a mistake, or you're not on.
I hope you are being sarcastic JWP or i pray for you
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| Football's coverage is, in general, poor. Pundits seem to get on because of their accents and not because of their ability to analyze. The best football coverage of all is on Sky, with the Spanish football coverage. Second best is ITV's champions league highlights, although it has that mug Townsend, it at least has Marcotti on there, who is a cut above any pundit in the country. In terms of general sport programs, ESPN is good, I like press pass and I feel PTI could eventually progress into a decent show.
The BBC is awful, every single year we moan about how poor the coverage is. Whether it's the embarrassing state of the commentary, or the woeful SL show, it really does the game no favours.
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| If their football coverage is anything to go by, no. I'll be watching the FA and Champions League Finals on ESPN and Sky to avoid their coverage.
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| err, before complaining about ITV football pundits, let's get our own house in order with Eddeh and Stevo, plus the child in a man's body Phil Clarke. Brian Carney, Bill Arthur and Jon Wells are the only onces with any common sense.
Final note - Adrian Chiles or whatever is name is.. cock end.
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| Quote: Wirefan "Final note - Adrian Chiles or whatever is name is.. cock end.'" ]
Is that a statement or a request?
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| Let's wait and see if the BBC can do a better job than they have done. Their live Cup coverage has improved massively in recent years so I'm sure they could do a better job that the Super League Show - which as far as I know is kept going because of the enthusiasm of Harry Gration and the team that make it.
Maybe the Beeb's move to Salford's Media City will help? They might start taking more of interest in things that happen on their doorstep.
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| I don't see that it has already been mentioned but why not have the RFL or Super league present their own online version?
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| Quote: THEOriginalWire "I don't see that it has already been mentioned but why not have the RFL or Super league present their own online version?'"
They should have one, but it shouldn't be in place of what should be a national highlights programme.
I wouldn't even mind if they kept the current highlights as they do on the website, just add some commentary over the top. Even if its just some intern doing it, better than that dodgy music over and over again. I see they have started uploading onto youtube though, slhighlights I think the channel is called, much better than the rubbish player they use on the website.
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| Quote: inside_man "They should have one, but it shouldn't be in place of what should be a national highlights programme.
I wouldn't even mind if they kept the current highlights as they do on the website, just add some commentary over the top. Even if its just some intern doing it, better than that dodgy music over and over again. I see they have started uploading onto youtube though, slhighlights I think the channel is called, much better than the rubbish player they use on the website.'"
yes, and those are fresh clips with a bit of effort put in. As you say, a bit of commentary with the highlights they have already would be good, hell i could do a better commentary than some of the rubbish gration comes out with. Would be good to get one fan from each side to do it.
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| Quote: SEB "Let's wait and see if the BBC can do a better job than they have done. Their live Cup coverage has improved massively in recent years so I'm sure they could do a better job that the Super League Show - which as far as I know is kept going because of the enthusiasm of Harry Gration and the team that make it.
Maybe the Beeb's move to Salford's Media City will help? They might start taking more of interest in things that happen on their doorstep.'"
the man responsible for producing the show isnt as enthusiastic though, a mate of mine did some work there and said it wasn't very professional. Say's it all really.
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| Quote: The Necromancer "Best bet is either Channel 4 or 5'"
you have no chance of channel 4 they have to be paid now to show the horse racing.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "ITV would be the death knell of Rugby League on terrestrial tv.
The main problem ultimately is that we are a REGIONAL sport on REGIONAL tv.....Most regional tv is amateurish in general and the Super League show is a prime example of this.
For a good idea of what we should look like, take a look at that Football League highlights show on BBC1 on a Saturday night after MOTD.....Simple, well-presented, nicely analysed, I actually prefer it to the rubbish of Lineker, Hansen and co before it.
Unfortunately, until the beeb take us seriously as a national sport, then we will continue looking like funny Northerners....However, I'd go with nothing rather than GranadaTV....
It wouldnt be regional if it went to ITV apart from the news they dont do regional programming now. I think next season we will see The Super League show on ITV4 as they are ramming that channel with as much sport as they can show.
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| Quote: dids858 "you have no chance of channel 4 they have to be paid now to show the horse racing.'"
Channel 4 won't have any interest in any sport that wouldn't take up a regular spot on its daytime schedule. I.e. not cricket or horse racing.
They have most of the top "entertainment" shows so aren't ever going to replace anything after like 3pm.
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| Quote: DJ Birchy Ford Clinic "i love ITV's football coverage. Listening to 2 blokes sacked by Championship Side Middlesbrough trying to tell "The Special One" Where his tactics are poor is great telly. At least Shearer, Hansen, Lawrinson & Dixon are all champions & born winners where as Andy Townsend & Gareth Southgate won a League cup once. If ITV got Super League they would probably have Matt Rodwell hosting with Dallas Meade & Steve Georgiallis as the "Experts"'"
I'd disagree with you there. You've fell in the trap of just because a player was great he'd make a great pundit (or manager).
Shearer is woeful, he just inanely describes what's just happened as if we haven't got eyes ourselves. He offers no insight into the game at all. Hansen is a little better and comes up with good stuff sometimes. I don't mind Dixon but Lawrenson is probably the worst of the lot. He's smug, arrogant and acts like he doesn't enjoy the game most of the time.
Last years World Cup showed the BBC team up for what they are, an old boys club out on a jolly up. Lawrenson, Hanson and Shearer all guilty (and happily admitting it) of not knowing much about the teams involved. They'd never even heard of the likes of Hatem Ben Afra or Hamsik despite them both being on the radar of the top European clubs for years. I'm pretty sure they didn't know too much about the young exciting German team at the time either. I'm not sure if he was on the beeb but when Roy Hodgson turned up you could tell instantly that he knew so much more about the world game than the rest of them.
I once saw Danny Baker on MOTD and he was talking fairly knowledgeably about a couple of teams. Shearer just took the p!ss out of him for knowing so much. I don't know how many medals Lawrenson has won but I'd much rather listen to the likes of Baker or James Richardson. They should even try and get Zonal Markings Michael Cox involved somewhere for some real insight. How many England caps have them three got between them.
The best pundits are generally on Sky with Souness and Guillet leading the way by a mile but Seedorf and Leonardo have both worked well on the BBC.
As for Rugby League on ITV, I always thought Rob McCathery and Clive Tyldesley worked well as a anchor/commentry duo in the early 90s but that could be age blurring my memories.
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