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Quote: easyWire "Surprised about Bullock. Thought we were a little light in the pack. Maybe he's just not training as well as Dudson

Seems like Burgess doesn`t rate Bullock?

Bullock will give his best shot at Hull? or wherever he goes.

Dudson is finished when his current contract expires and has no future in Rugby League, so I doubt if he will agree to be loaned out anywhere.

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Got to say, this has Gary Chambers written all over the loan signings.

I think it’s taking into consideration the player welfare as well as club finances.

I approve of this set up.

It was an eye opener hearing from Sam Burgess that Bullock has something amiss in his game.
Now it clarifies that it isn’t particularly fitness and definitely not injury.

I also approve of realisation and honestly if a player isn’t up to it. The player must be accountable for his attitude and application.

Big Sam isn’t afraid to drop a player if he ain’t giving his best or they are second best. That is a winning formula.
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If Sam can unlock Bullock's inner beast then there's a player in there I think.....but then again he'll probably never play for us again.

I know these loan deals are sensible of a fashion, but is assisting potential top 6 rivals with squad issues wise?

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Quote: ratticusfinch "

I know these loan deals are sensible of a fashion, but is assisting potential top 6 rivals with squad issues wise?'"


Made that point yesterday when Dwyer`s loan was announced.

Can`t imagine our dual registration clubs Widnes and North Wales Crusaders are very happy either when they see players being loaned-out to our rival Super League clubs when they expected them to play was dual reg. for them.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "If Sam can unlock Bullock's inner beast then there's a player in there I think.....but then again he'll probably never play for us again.

I know these loan deals are sensible of a fashion, but is assisting potential top 6 rivals with squad issues wise?'"


No it isn't. We got ourselves into a ridiculous position last year where we had a second row (Longstaff) and halfback (Dean) out on loan, at a time we were having to play players out of position to fill those gaps.

With red cards and bans being handed out all over the shop, we shouldn't be loaning or releasing anybody unless we have replacements coming in.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "If Sam can unlock Bullock's inner beast then there's a player in there I think.....but then again he'll probably never play for us again.

I know these loan deals are sensible of a fashion, but is assisting potential top 6 rivals with squad issues wise?'"

Player welfare ranks way higher than a clubs top 6 aspirations.
And let’s be honest, if the loan deals are successful, and their donor clubs get a result, I’m pretty sure it will help our top 6 push. I don’t see Hull or even Leigh making top 6.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Quote: just_browny "No it isn't. We got ourselves into a ridiculous position last year where we had a second row (Longstaff) and halfback (Dean) out on loan, at a time we were having to play players out of position to fill those gaps.

With red cards and bans being handed out all over the shop, we shouldn't be loaning or releasing anybody unless we have replacements coming in.'"


We definitely left ourselves a bit thin on the ground last year & I agree that with injuries and suspensions you could easily lose 3 players. If these "loaned" players can return immediately then it is OK but otherwise it could potentially bite you in the bottom.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "We definitely left ourselves a bit thin on the ground last year & I agree that with injuries and suspensions you could easily lose 3 players. If these "loaned" players can return immediately then it is OK but otherwise it could potentially bite you in the bottom.'"

In 2 weeks Leigh play Hull, the deal really doesn’t impact upon us.
It will benefit us if Dwyer helps Leigh beat Leeds at the weekend.

It’s a win win deal for Wire…
If carlsberg made loan deals!!

Unless we can’t beat Cas! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: rubber duckie "In 2 weeks Leigh play Hull, the deal really doesn’t impact upon us.
It will benefit us if Dwyer helps Leigh beat Leeds at the weekend.

It’s a win win deal for Wire…
If carlsberg made loan deals!!

Unless we can’t beat Cas!
Why does it matter to us if Leigh beat Leeds? Arent both of those teams in the same category as us, i.e. unlikely to be champions but aiming for the playoffs?

I really hope we are not trying to play 4D chess but are actually just making space for some new signings of our own.

And if anyone has objectively concluded that Dudson is a better player to have in the squad than Bullock, I am giving up.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "If Sam can unlock Bullock's inner beast then there's a player in there I think.....but then again he'll probably never play for us again.

I know these loan deals are sensible of a fashion, but is assisting potential top 6 rivals with squad issues wise?'"


We ain't getting anywhere near top 6 this season mate I wouldn't worry about that icon_lol.gif

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Well you normally start very well and then tail off - so signs are good for this season. Hull get their players back and act together and they can easily make the top 6.

Though they could save us all the bother and just jump to a Saints-Wigan GF right now.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "If Sam can unlock Bullock's inner beast then there's a player in there I think.....but then again he'll probably never play for us again.

I know these loan deals are sensible of a fashion, but is assisting potential top 6 rivals with squad issues wise?'"

Yeah with Bullock, he's a big powerful guy but from what i've seen of him he lacks the aggression needed to really be at his best.

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Maybe Bullock is conscious of aggravating a previous injury & it holds him back from his best.

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