your guys seemed intent on trying to knock our heads off,take out our danger men and wind LOD up rather than sticking to basics,we did just that and completely bullied your pack.
you may have the best pack when things are going well but last night you were a distant 2nd best.

B****X intent on knockin your heads off, the morley shot was all shoulder, and the others were just lazy. How about danny brough trying to reap the ball EVERY time he got his hands on it?
I hope the 's caravan gets broken into.

What's Briers got to do with this?

You sound like a wigan fan, we lost because we played badly.

The unforced errors were ENFORCED errors because they were caused by a very brutal and physically dominant defence. Some of the tackles on Hodgson showed the commitment.

Playing on the back foot because you did not dominate in the ruck was what led you to take poor options and make mistakes. Losing Briers was obviously a big blow but did you not beat us last year without briers in a game. When you stuffed us in the CC your pack blew ours away and let people like Bridge destroy us. Because your pack was so badly beaten that did not happen this time.

If your pack had dominated then you would still have created more chances than you did.

Forwards win games the backs only make the score look good. If we had your backs( plus McGilvary )we would have got 50. I still rate our pack very highly and would say LOD was the outstanding forward on both sides.

In terms of your pack Morley is a great player but cannot do the big minutes like he once did. He cannot dominate like he once did and his career is coming to an end. He would still get into most SL sides ( including ours) but his time is running out.

Westwood is a very good player but i question what Solomona does for you ( if you are on the front foot and the rest of the pack is dominating) he can be very destructive but if you need a roll your sleeves up and put a big stint in he cannot do it and his lateral defence is poor. Harison neds dropping for a month and be made to live in a gym. He seems to have gone backwards this year in terms of his physique. Still has the ability to be a great player but needs to look at Morley as a role model not big daddy.

I agree with you on the 3 high shots that got penalised. All seemed lazy and tired rather than malicious. Disagree on Morleys the shot was all shoulder and bicep but straight into the face is very bad. I know what Morley was saying to the ref about it was my shoulder and he is only a small guy but Silverwood was right when he said it is your responsibilty to bend your back and tackle lower.

Your comments about Brough are laughable , you were as guilty of as many technical offences that went unpunished as were we.

I think you are mixing Brough and Long up. Long is the caravan dweller whilst Brough lives in a cave eating raw meat and wearing animal skins and trying to work out how to make fire. Despite that he is Englands best chance of putting the Aussies under some pressure in the 4N.

Quote me where i said we lost because we played badly, nothing new on rlfans where someone is unable to read a post clearly in the context in which it was written.

Its a fact that its far eaier to defend against sides that are lacking ideas in attack, that reply was made in reference to someone elses post about defending.

I actually praised your win if you could be bothered to read on, i said you won because

then god help us because he wont be performing behind a dominant pack against the aussies like he was last night. and that is the only time brough seems effective, in all honesty i think your other halves were much better than brough last night anyway.

Oh I'm sorry, I couldn't see where you proved me wrong as he hasn't played for England yet
That's why it wasn't worthy of a decent response.

We'll have to wait and see, he maybe another Sinfield who's ok for his club but no good for England. He's improved as a player and seems to have matured as a person too so give the lad a chance.

fair do's, im of the opinion as i mentioned over on your forum, that unless he is behind a dominant pack then he is quiet, hence he was never very good at wakefield. So under that reasoning i think he will struggle and then become the blame horse for why we didnt perform well.