Loving reading these in-depth analysis of player disputes, top level failing and coaching issues.

My modest take is we just need a prop and some wins.

It's more than though isn't it. Powell himself has talked about "butting heads" and lack of effort has been on display. One big prop isn't going to solve that. We didn't lose on Sunday because of the lack of a big forward.

I think we are heading for a show down. Been a long time coming, I back Powell all the way.

You don't think Luke Gale, Zak Hardaker, Rangi Chase, Danny Maguire, Danny Richardson have / had egos ?

For me it's nothing to do with ego's, it's more to do with how bang average Warrington's forwards are. Collectively I think that pack must be maybe in the bottom 4 in the league. Therefore the 1 6 7 9 are somewhat limited with the opportunities / territory. I'm not massively sold on Ratchford too, and again how many sides does ratchford totally displace any other full back in the league , I don't think saints Wigan hull catalan cas hudds wakey kr would want him over their options.

100% Powell knows what's the expectations are at Warrington but I think he needs a clean sweep to remove the deadwood and add his own full input of player.

Fair points. But there’s far too many obstacles to Powell being given those kind of Powers at your club . If you did send gave him 3 years he’s capable of it ……

There has been something wrong for a good while now. Even Price had a good moan on more than one occasion being mystified by performances on the field after "training well all week". The players have to learn that they do not choose to play when they feel like it and those that cannot cope with this concept have to go. It should be coach power not player power. Powell will know that ultimately it is his head on the chopping block and he has to make big decision and perhaps hurt a few ego's for the good of the club.

These things crop up every time there's a poor performance or patch in form, I do wonder who the bad apples could considerably be.

You've got your prc types, Davis, King, philbin, mulhern and now apparently holmes and minikin.

On the other side you had the Wigan lads, hilly, ratch and hughes. Mainstays, long time members of the playing squad

From being a social media stalker you don't see the others mixing and matching too much. Danny walker still seems to knock about with Dec

The level of inconsistency we have seen over the last few years has to be down to attitude. I just wonder what it is that contributes to this. The 'apparent' lack of effort, enthusiasm and confidence is a head thing not a physical one.

I cannot recall a Warrington coach ever publicly saying ...

[i"I feel like I’m butting heads with some of them about the way we want to play"

"the players need to sort their heads out"

"We have no players playing consistently well"

"We’ve had a good chat after the game about player accountability"[/i


It's not as if this is all forum tittle tattle, these are remarks attributed to Powell.

I think it's more than a "poor performance" or "patch". This is a real problem.

i was referring more to the 'something has been wrong for a while' aspect.

Personally, for me at this point, i'd be dropping.

Widdop,
Philbin
Currie (he was ok going forward at the weekend but part of that appalling left side defence 2nd half)
king, (last week i was on the fence, this week i'm fed up with him)
and holmes.

They all need a rocket up their s.

That is the easy bit. So you now you have to replace them with 5 from outside last weeks 17.
So out go... Widdop, Philbin, Currie, King and Holmes. Can you name the 5 that come in ... ??
Ashton ... still injured by the way and let's say Darryl Clark is out as well (just to give that true feeling of reality).
So pick your full 17 and let's see what we think?

Out of interest what would you do?

Drop a few or "go again" with the same?

Wrench centre for King, Longstaff comes in, Butler comes in, Dean comes in, Jack Darbyshire comes in

Dean for Widdop (although I thought Widdop did OK)
Walker for D. Clark
Hughes for Holmes
Longstaff for Currie

FB - Thewlis
Wing - Charnley
Wing - Ashton if fit
Centre - Matatutia
Centre - Wrench

SO Williams
SH Dean

Pack
Mulhearn Walker Cooper
Hughes Longstaff
Magolias


Bench
Burgess
Davis
J Clark
Butler


If Ashton is not fit then Gannon to SR, Hughes to centre and Wrench to Wing. Could even bench Widdop for utility value

We may not win, but have lost 4 on the bounce anyway playing the "stars". So I think we can see it's perfectly possible.

I coached. As a coach you know who your best players are cos you see 'em everyday in all sorts of situations. There is no club I have ever seen can afford to drop 5 of their "top" players in the hope that it will give them that rocket up the that will get them playing well again. My view ... you work on your best players. Despite what fans may think I have seen very few players who don't really try on the pitch. I reckon Widdop, King, Currie, Holmes & Philbin do not lack for effort.