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Heard that the deal is done at Toronto for SBW at 10 mil Canadian Dollars pa which I think equates to just shy of £6mil, scary stuff if this is correct.

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Just announced on BBC website signed 2 year deal more details to follow.

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Fantastic news story....

But still topped by RU
Saracens RU salary cap breech fine and points deduct. That is how you deal with something not like the weak RFL.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Fantastic news story....

But still topped by RU
Saracens RU salary cap breech fine and points deduct. That is how you deal with something not like the weak RFL.'"


Agreed, that's a proper punishment. I doubt sarries will get relegated and they can get 5 points per game in union so I'd say that was the equivalent of say a 16 point deduction in superleague.

They won't be troubling the playoffs this season barring a miracle.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Fantastic news story....

But still topped by RU
Saracens RU salary cap breech fine and points deduct. That is how you deal with something not like the weak RFL.'"


Deducted 35 points and £5mil fine, that we stop any further breaches

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In contrast...Pies -2 points, given back.

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Regarding sonny bill I think it's a great signing for Toronto and superleague in general.

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For years when we have spent money on big signings that other clubs can't afford, their fans have been telling us that it's a waste of money and we should be spending that money investing in our youth. Now we can go and say that to the Toronto fans.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Fantastic news story....

But still topped by RU
Saracens RU salary cap breech fine and points deduct. That is how you deal with something not like the weak RFL.'"

They only did it to stall the SBW story, don't worry the punishment will disappear on appeal.
I also suspect, although it hasn't been reported anywhere that I have seen, that the sums involved with Saracens are much higher than anything seen in RL

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Quote: rubber duckie "In contrast...Pies -2 points, given back.'"


My thoughts exactly.
If i remember right, wasn't their deduction put back to the 2020 season?
I've heard/seen nobody mention this since!

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No suspended till the end of 2019 season when they'd be no cap challenge anyway because 2019 have finished before the audit could be checkout...and Pies already pinched a season for secret objections in 2017 when they won the 2018 GF because of it.

It just takes the piste

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Yes - I have to agree RD.

Far too often the big teams have been 'protected for breaches for the sake of the sport or that is how it appears. But it's blatantly wrong.

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I've seen more RL national press in the last week, than ive probably seen over the last few years thanks to this SBW signing.

Its a bit like the time Widnes signed Davies from union. (that signing ripped the back out of union at the time.... no one could quite believe what had happened).

I think its great.... Toronto linked with Tuilangi today.... i dont know what the rules are around their salary cap... But i hope they dont have one.

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I think they are looking at 2021 for Tuilaga going to Toronto.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "I've seen more RL national press in the last week, than ive probably seen over the last few years thanks to this SBW signing.

Its a bit like the time Widnes signed Davies from union. (that signing ripped the back out of union at the time.... no one could quite believe what had happened).

I think its great.... Toronto linked with Tuilangi today.... i dont know what the rules are around their salary cap... But i hope they dont have one.'"


I read somewhere that we made enquiries about Tuilangi before signing Burrell.

They follow exactly the same salary cap as everyone else does. SBW will count as £150k on the cap. If they sign Tuilangi he will count as zero on the cap in Year one, then 50% in Year Two. Signing Tuilangi would still be a risk. He rejected an £850k contract from France earlier this year. You'd think he'd want a similar fee from Toronto to give up his International payments in RU, that would mean in the second year of his contract he would take up a marquee spot - thats a risk.

I think Toronto are quite rightly cashing in on the exposure, and allowing themselves to be linked with everyone. But I think they would be better off targeting a genuine NRL star than risking a marque spot on a Union player.

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