there's a couple of eye opening scenes in that!

I don't quite understand the negativity around Wheeler and the confirmation of his signing.

Yes he's had injury problems but Saints in general have sufferred in that department so maybe the issue is with the conditioning, rehab and training he's received.

Yes, maybe he is another utility player but that is the way the game is going. The days of players like John Woods who you put in their best position and built the team around them are gone, sadly. The physical and tactical demands of the modern game mean players have to be multi-faceted and adapable, and that invariably dilutes their skillsets.

For me, when the 2015 season starts everyone starts from an even playing field. I'll judge Wheeler's fitness, form, ability and attitude the same as all the other players when and where it matters - next Feb.

Thanks morrisseyisawire.... how could I forget John Woods?
Another classic footballing stand off/ centre

£80

Btw I do understand the benefit of having utility players but what we need is a specialist halfback with game management ability.

Until we get a top class one doubt we will get that elusive champion title.

Interesting how a player gets slated for being injured, I assume it's frustration on the fans part rather than "blaming" the player.
Also interesting to compare our attitude to Grix and his injuries (summarised as "poor bloke, gutted for him"icon_wink.gif and the saints forum view of Wheeler (summarised as stealing a living should have got rid earlier).

I am bemused by this signing as I know its low risk but if it is to replace Myler (I know that may not happen) then it is a risk not worth taking imo! I have never seen the guy command a game for 80 mins I just dont think he is good enough for us.

Very true, the chance all depends on how you look at it I was assuming it being his injuries, TS seems happy enough with it all, I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

I think he is a great player Irishwire.
If he stayed at Sts as a hb, he would likely clash with Walsh's style.
Lance doesn't and thinking about it, neither would Myler if he ever went there.

Wheeler was always well liked at Saints as a youngster, had injury not hampered him, I'm sure he would be up there with the best. I've not known him from what I've seen on TV ever to have a poor game.
I think the Saints fans are just throwing a few knives at him for leaving and joining an enemy.

Although I don't know this, purely a guess, but I wouldn't be surprised if his departure had something to do with Cunningham taking over as head. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get along.

Those days were gone even when we had John Woods! He was shunted out of his best position so that Phil Blake could play in the halves. Still annoys me to this day.

Not me, loved Woods but Blake was the best player I have ever seen.

As a centre he was brilliant, in the halves not so much. Other way round with Woods.

I don't know, I had goggle blinkers on back then, I was in mesmerised by Blake.