You weren't rubbish tonight, just tired.

Apologies. Maybe Wigan should learn how to back up tough games against the Dragons and not fail the next week. It happens too much to be a coincidence.

What happened after your wembley appearance last year? Or after your playoff win last year? Need to learn how to back things up, your older players are letting you down.

This

I thought he had a good game. We were the reason lost.

In the pub with beer, feeling OK. Not the end of the world is it? Saints deserved to win end of.

Sorry, but pish from beginning to end tonight.

The first half, we might as well as fielded Johnathon Ross' 4 mates and their piano, as apposed to our front 6. Dross.
As someone earlier posted, MonaghanM is so far off the pace, it's untrue.

Waterhouse is far from showing ANYTHING like NRL form.

Wood and Carvell look like they'd struggle to break into Swinton's starting pack at the mo.

Do we ACTUALLY have a plan B, when things go wrong. We continue to chuck the ball around like a live handgranade, when we are under the cosh. Keep hold of the ball for a couple of sets of six, and get a foothold back in the game. USE YOUR BRAINS, WIRE.

Plus points
Hill (again)
Higham (looking a lot better now)
Riley (again)

To even think about putting 1% of the blame Ben Thaler's way, is not only wrong, but pathetic. We stunk the house out, tonight. Thank God it's only Widnes next. Mind you, those simpletons 13 miles up the road got turned over by them, the other week.

No complacency Wire.

Onwards and upwards.

I'm with you Yed, it's been in the post all season from the way we've been playing. No enthusiasm at all. Maybe, and here I'm clutching for a silver lining, that's just what we needed to remind us how to play!!!!!!! Let's hope it pans out that way.

Winning and getting away with playing poorly does nothing for the team other than keep the table points accumulating. A defeat is actually more beneficial long term as you really take stock of where you failed and look to rectify it rather than think "we got away with that one, but we'll be alright next week".

Agree with all that, but even Hill started with a stupid offload that was never on.

Really annoyed tonight, but shouldn't be because we've played like that on TV all season. No respect for possession, leaving the Sky commentators open-mouthed at 80-20 and 90-10 possession stats. Well sorry, but eventually someone is going to spank you, be it Saints or Salford.

Yep been coming for a while that result tonite!!
No complaints well played Saints came out the blocks and Bang, 0-22 in no time game over in my opinion!!

Still a few of our players need to have a Long hard look at themselves..

Well Wigan get the return favour from Saints later in the season.

Saints Warrington Monday night

Warrington v Wigan the following Sunday.

When one of your crumb of comforts is that Micky Higham was 'alright' you're buggered.

I do think though, whilst we were plop, Saints were very good in that firsty twenty, I know we gifted them field position etc but they were clinical.

Saints respected possession a lot more.

Shame they never respected Royce Simmons enough to play like that when he was in charge.

You would need to post on the football thread if you want to make statements like that. I'm having a Kenny Dalglish flashback.

OMFG we were shocking let's move on. Saints rolled us in the first half and cored one try in the second. Move on, let's just smash them at their place. No prizes given out in March from what I can see. It will come.

Completely agree with you we need to get back to basics and start doing the simple things well, see out each set of 6, kick and chase, build pressure and be patient

No need to panic id be willing to bet Tony Smith will be telling them in no uncertain terms that trying to score through outrageous offloads and hollywood passes with every play of the ball isnt on

A six day turnaround for the octogenerians fills me with confidence.