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| Is it only me who thinks Chase is one of the most overrated players in SL?
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| Quote: Teessidewire "No, journos do the dream Team, the players do MOS. Thought you would have got used to Sally by now.'"
I have got used to Sally! Still one of their better ones!
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Is it only me who thinks Chase is one of the most overrated players in SL?'"
Your on alone, i have the same opinion
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Is it only me who thinks Chase is one of the most overrated players in SL?'" I would like to see him play for a top 4 team,one bloke always stands out in a poor team!!!
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| Quote: Teessidewire "Fair enough. Roby is my choice. Without him Saints would have been dead and buried. Sam was just about inevitable, but I'm not really sure about Chase. I really wonder if he would stand out in a better side.'"
Chase was the best player on the pitch in the England v Exiles game.
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| Bit gutted for Monas, but on the plus side, he should blame the rest of our squad because I can only imagine our collective efforts this year have prevented any one player from taking all the lime light.
Roby is phenomenal, end of. And I'm quietly convinced that the positive's in their season thus far have been largely due to his influences. Therefore, he's worthy of being in the three.
Chase is pretty much everything to Cas. I actually like them and mean absolutely no disrespect when I say that too. They're bringing through some decent young talent, however, I do get the impression that if you take Chase out of Cas, it's like removing the lube from the schlong - things will no longer be anywhere near as smooth!
And as for Sam Tomkins, no one can deny his worthiness at being arguably the main candidate. Yes, he was a tool for giving the v's at Wembley, yes he annoys people with some of his antics, but let's face it, the kid is raw natural talent. That of which we are not often accustomed to in SL.
Tricky decision. I think Roby may sneak it if I'm honest.
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| Roby is my choice of the 3 Sam t is a class player but his petulance lets him down imo i think the 2 finger salute could had harmed his chances, just a matter of interest who chooses the shortlist
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| chase should not be in their he had a gd start to the season but fizzled out towards the back end monoghan has been consistant for you guys all year should have been in their for sure i just hope tomkins doesnt win id rather it go to roby he has had a gd season and deserves it more than rat boy
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| Quote: roader "I see it a different way with Chase. The fact he has stood out in an average team shows how good he is.'"
Roby has stood out in an average team for most of the season and has been unstoppable for 5000 metres. Wonder if we get to know the nomination scores, Mona's must have been 4th in the reckoning.
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| Do players have to vote or can they abstain ?
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| Only three players that deserve a look in for MOS. They are Tomkins, Michael Monaghan and Roby. If MOS is voted by the players then Monaghan still has a chance. For me, Roby deserves the award though. He has carried Saints through most of this season and the stats don't lie. Tomkins will probably get it, but I don't want him to. Great player, but you can't stand him as a player.
Rangi Chase IMO, is over-rated, as others have picked up on. One of those players who are very inventive. Some games they get the rub of the green and everything comes off for them, others, it doesn't and they're a liability and can cause their side a lot of problems. When he's performed, Rangi Chase has been impressive, there's no denying that, but IMO, a player who has been as inconsistent as he has doesn't deserve MOS.
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| Shame for MonaghanM, but the players will make their choice...ho-hum
As I've said a couple of times in the last few weeks in similar threads, I'd rather him win the Harry Sunderland trophy on October 8th, to join another Australian legend in Warrington's history....Les Boyd
That would be truly fitting
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| Did nobody hear Brian Carney about this when we played Wigan? I think it was Clarke or Eddeh who said Sam Tomkins was a shoe in for MOS and Brian said "Maybe, but I'm not convinced how my rugby the players actually watch outside games they play in." And looking at who's nominated I've got to agree. ANYONE who thinks Sam Tomkins is more deserving of the MoS than Monas is barking, for me MoS should be about men who stand up when the team's down, take charge and lead from the front - something I've never seen cry baby do. I'd have Monas and Moz ahead of Tomkins or Chase, they live up the the name Man of Steel, the other two are just flashy.
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| The problem lies in the name of said title. It's the word steel and all it evokes that most object to. Players' player of the season, is what it is, and if they vote for Tomkins, fair enough, no arguement.
I almost think he deserves it. He has been outstanding for most of the season, but since the semi against us? Well; the best full back in the world has been average, bit like his team. If I were playing against Wigan, I know who I'd be hoping had an off day. I know who I'd be most worried about. Watching Wigan over the last few games, the team have really struggled to reach the hights they can when he's on song. Shows how important he is.
Players' Player of the year, O.K. I'll accept that, but where's the STEEL?
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I almost think he deserves it. He has been outstanding for most of the season, but since the semi against us? Well; the best full back in the world has been average, bit like his team. If I were playing against Wigan, I know who I'd be hoping had an off day. I know who I'd be most worried about. Watching Wigan over the last few games, the team have really struggled to reach the hights they can when he's on song. Shows how important he is.
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Can't disagree more. You're right he's not impressed since the CC Semi but not for the reasons you give. I think he's been found out. Leeds really showed him up in the CC Final, as did we. A half organised defence really stops him doing anything of note and if there's no broken field infront of him, he's stumped. Compare that to Monas and it's as different as night and day. Monas will turn defeat into victory, Sammy will massage a score line.
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