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I've said this time and time again
In International football, you HAVE to play people in their PROPER positions
If we already have someone better in that particular position, the coach MUST be ruthless, and either not play the superfluous player at all, or you have him on the subs bench. Why does Sinfield (a loose forward) play stand off? Do we HAVE to play him? NO WE DON'T. McBanana should have had some balls, and said to him 'sorry Kevin, I prefer someone else at LF, so I'm not picking you in the starting 13', but here we go again...we HAVE to find a place for him....CRAP....

We've been doing this for 15 years+ now, playing players out of position.
If a scratch team can beat us, on our territory, when we've played people out of position, what's a fully committed Aussie team going to do to us?

Play a team in their correct positions...and B0110cks to their reputations

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Quote: MikeyWire "Maybe go back to the old days and play a full Wigan side eh KW....?
Do you honestly think Yeaman and Welham are better options at centre than Bridge and Shenton...?'"


No but it's frightening from an England pov to think that George Carmont at 33 years of age was the best centre on the pitch tonight.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "I've said this time and time again
In International football, you HAVE to play people in their PROPER positions
If we already have someone better in that particular position, the coach MUST be ruthless, and either not play the superfluous player at all, or you have him on the subs bench. Why does Sinfield (a loose forward) play stand off? Do we HAVE to play him? NO WE DON'T. McBanana should have had some balls, and said to him 'sorry Kevin, I prefer someone else at LF, so I'm not picking you in the starting 13', but here we go again...we HAVE to find a place for him....CRAP....

We've been doing this for 15 years+ now, playing players out of position.
If a scratch team can beat us, on our territory, when we've played people out of position, what's a fully committed Aussie team going to do to us?

Play a team in their correct positions...and B0110cks to their reputations'"


I agree completely. BUT Sinfield has played most of this season so far at Stand Off. He's still crap mind but if people say Joel Tomkins should now be considered a centre, same goes for Sinfield.

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BUT SINFIELD IS A LOOSE FORWARD
I don't give a flying 5h1t3 if he's played there (because Danny McGuire's been injured for 9 month) all season. He's out of position, and I'm afraid at that level, you get found out, and surprise surprise....we have been......AGAIN

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The one thing Westwood certainly did was look like he wanted the game to be played at the intensity level of an international.

I half enjoyed the game, certainly better than the games against France.

Didn't think there were many (any?) standout performances for either team but I wouldn't want to see Peacock, Sinfield or Hall play at that level again.

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Peacock looks a bit lost (atm)
Sinfield, I've said this before (and been derided by over-protective Whinos fans), is (at best) a VERY good SL player...and that's where it ends
Hall is just a good SL player

Let's be honest, who out of tonight's Englad 17, would worry an Aussie international 'C' team...not many...certainly not any of the 3/4 line, that's for sure...going across the side...the Aussies would only be worried about Graham (and possibly Weswood and Tomkins) even getting a look-in.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "No but it's frightening from an England pov to think that George Carmont at 33 years of age was the best centre on the pitch tonight.'"



give him a biscuit

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "No but it's frightening from an England pov to think that George Carmont at 33 years of age was the best centre on the pitch tonight.'"


Problem is Rogues that there are some idiots out there who think players are done and dusted once they turn thirty.

Tonight Georgie Boy certainty showed what crap such people are spouting; hey?

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "can we have a thread without taking the mickey out of KW for once please chaps, he happens to be correct on the westwood front.'"



Then has to troll, saying Myler wasn't good. when....

1} Scored a try
2} Saved two other
3} Biggest try scoring threat in attack
4} Created quite a few decent openings out left
5} Defence strong all nightt.

Also couldn't resist a pop at Bridge, when he didn't do much wrong. I can see the trolling a mile off. Gives Westwood credit to buy a bit of time to put down our other players. I'm not saying Richie was outstanding, but he wasn't poor or just a support player, I think he was steady and did his job without being spectacular.

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Just popping over to your forum to say that Westwood was one of only a handful of players that played without worrying about injury. He threw himself into all the tackles he made. He played for England, not just his club last night.

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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "can we have a thread without taking the mickey out of KW for once please chaps, he happens to be correct on the westwood front.'"


No. He is right about Westwood but I'm afraid I still have trouble getting over the old 'Warrington Player takes drugs' and 'I want Maguire in a wheelchair' stuff. I'm going to rip him every time he is on here until I'm banned. Soz.

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Quote: sir adrian morley "could`nt get interested in the game..no atmosphere and it seemed to be played in exhibition mode..end of the day it proves nothing we`ll still get beat by the aussies and kiwis..we simply not good enough on the international stage...more importantly did any of our players get injured and will any of our players double up for the salford game'"
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Picking a lot of out of form players like sinfield shentons not having his best year nor is hall mcllorum is another surely there are other options like the young players from saints ie foster and lomax.. Robinson surprised me he played real well should have kept him on for 80 IMO

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Picking a lot of out of form players like sinfield shentons not having his best year nor is hall mcllorum is another surely there are other options like the young players from saints ie foster and lomax.. Robinson surprised me he played real well should have kept him on for 80 IMO'"
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Quote: Gary High "Westwood has to be the most under rated player in SL.....I'd have him in a Wigan shirt over any other player in the England team on that performance.

Sinfield has to be the most over rated player in SL !'"

Why would he want a wigan shirt? Does his car need cleaning?

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "BUT SINFIELD IS A LOOSE FORWARD
I don't give a flying 5h1t3 if he's played there (because Danny McGuire's been injured for 9 month) all season. He's out of position, and I'm afraid at that level, you get found out, and surprise surprise....we have been......AGAIN'"


agreed, why not play Kevin Brown or Lomax?

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