I saw that. 2 bloke behind me having an arggument. Both wire fans. Both threatened hit each other.

Pathetic.

Agreed

I drank my self stupid yesterday.The last thing on my my mind was fighting.I enjoyed the banter, the game and in a drunk sort of way,paying £4.30 for a pint.Whilst laughing, thinking robbing bar stewards.Everyone handles the ale in different ways,some think they are jonny ten men, others wanna hug you and most fall asleep and p!ss themsleves.Lets not look back on this final as the one which got spoilt by small mined morons who have a Stella and think they are Billy Big Spuds.This final is one which will be remembered. For Wire totalin outplaying, outthinking and totaly kicking ass on Leeds Rhinos

you are me in a smaller body and i claim my £5

Let's face it. We shouldn't be discussing this on here because I'd hope the people who use these boards are all one and the same. True fans. Voilence at games is frowned upon by us all, whether it's your own supporters or the oppositions, we all want them out.

Affected fans should write to the RFL.

The back half of our coach was a bunch of morons who had come together. Most of them were hammered by halfway to London and were generally very loud and obnoxious. They managed to break the toilet after an hour or so of the journey and spent the rest of the time abusing the driver because he wouldn't/couldn't fix it.

On the way home they were chanting and blowing one of those awful horns really loudly, then hurling abuse at the rest of us (the front half of the bus) for not joining in, even threatening us for not standing up when they started on "stand up if you love Wire". They banged on the windows and shouted at Leeds fans we passed leaving Wembley. This lasted the whole way home, absolute ar$eholes who were intent on being obnoxious and aggressive, no matter which fans it was aimed at. The downside to becoming sucessful is some people think it's a license to behave however they'd like.

Sounds like the journey from hell. This wasn't a club coach was it?

Now I wasn't there so can't possibly commentate, but what is certain is that you were not simultaneously in all the same places at all the same times as the op.

So how can you possibly state categorically that he is lying? For me too many people from too many different areas are all reporting similar worrying scenes for this not to be largely true. Coffee smelling time for some, I think.

And I'm also guessing that a lot of folk will in fact have made reports to the RFL and the other bodies you mention. So that's all right then, at least.

as stated earlier i find it hard to believe the op was able to witness all the events in one afternoon! he must have watched very little of the match with his spider senses tingling so much

What as (I consider myself) a true RL fan I don't understand is the call that lack of segregation was the cause.
If we can't stand together and support out respective teams, have a beer together, and sort out our OWN mindless yobs, then we may as well pack it in and go watch football.

I'll come and stand/sit with you, have a pint with you, agree/disagree with you, but at the end of the day will shake your hand, wish you well and look to meet up with you gain (win or lose).

It's a game of rugby, end of. There'll be another one , next week, next year etc.

You know when Wigan play at Warrington I always head for the Irish club, I always say come and have a chat. I do it with all then opposition fans (even Saints )
Why do we have to antagonistic to each other. Sadly respect for other people/ fans/ property seems to be diminishing.
And what's even worse it appears that some fans are tuning a blind eye towards the troublemakers.

totally disagree...me and my family like a beer or 6 at a game(like 99% of people and families)we can behave so why should we av this hard earned pleasure taken away....if this government grew some balls and started punishing people of guilty acts may be this crap hole of a country might get a tadge better

I agree, I like a beer as much as the next man.
But don't we as fans have a responsibility to "shop" the few idiots who ruin it for the rest of the fans.

We were 2nd row from the back of the top tier and 5 minutes before kick off around 7 or 8 lads (all in their early 20's) from Leeds showed up. They'd all had a few and were being pretty rowdy (oh y y etc) and at one point they spilled what felt like about half a pint of beer over me and my mate. I was thinking that things could turn nasty but the guys apologised and throughout the game we all had some good natured banter. Obviously they went a bit more into there shell as the game progressed.

I really feel for people who were caught up in trouble or sitting near idiots as I could really see it ruining your day if you let it. Whatever way you want to spin it, we at Wire do have our fair share of planks (saw some proper scoats at the homecoming today... ugh) - hopefully they will continue to remain a minority.

yes...but then it all escalates further and other people stick there noses in...the do gooder brigade av won im afraid to say...