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Giggs was not a worthy winner,it was a total farce.If the bbc wanted to honour Giggs then the lifetime achievement award would have been more suited.

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Cavendish deserved to win it IMO. His achievements this past year have been incredible.

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Giggs has achieved a hell of a lot in football through his career at Man U and deserves some kind of recognition, but i thought it was sports personality of the YEAR?...

For most of last season he was a bit part sub scoring 2 goals (i stand to be corrected on this CBA looking it up) he was far from integral in Man Utd's title win...And was part of a losing champions league side...

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"phil ford, he's a bit of a stepper replacing hugh wardell, in jumper no. 15 it's brian case oooh and he does a bit of a boogie gregory and gregory, sounds like a firm of solicitors put the glasses down he's under the black dot" Sounds of Sydney 1988.:6771.jpg



Quote: worthing wire "Cavendish deserved to win it IMO. His achievements this past year have been incredible.'"


Behave yourself icon_biggrin.gif icon_lol.gif .

Fair enough, he won the Milan-San Remo but he finished 131st in the Tour de France icon_eek.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

If you're going to big up a cyclist it should be Bradley Wiggins

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The Beeb made is sound dramatic, why cant I?

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How that rag won i'll never know. Had to be Jenson Button for me d040.gif

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Wasn't Giggs eligible for England having been brought up (I always though born in, but apparently not) in Salford/Manchester, as his dad moved up north to play for Swinton?

Anyway, I can't think of a more worthy winner of an award. The bloke should go down as one of the finest footballers ever and a great person, too, by all accounts.

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phil the power taylor.


i bet he didnt even get a mention. disgrace.

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Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "Wasn't Giggs eligible for England having been brought up (I always though born in, but apparently not) in Salford/Manchester, as his dad moved up north to play for Swinton?'"


Possibly but in my opinion IF he was eligible (I don't know for certain either way) then choosing to play for the country of his birth rather than flying the flag of convenience is another feather in Giggs' cap.

Had he played for England then aside from any footballing benefits he also would have no doubt made a lot more money as he would have been an even bigger draw for sponsors. The fact that he put loyalty to his heritage first should be applauded not denigrated. Presumably Richeastender is the type of "Ingurlund Till I Die" merchant who is bitter towards Giggs because England's left wing has been bereft of talent for the majority of his career.

I hate Man United. I don't hate Ryan Giggs. That's pretty much the highest accolade I can pay him! I still would have voted for David Haye had I been in when SPOTY was on though.

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I was really hoping that Jenson would win it. His drive in the penultimate race of the season was enough to prove to me he is world champion material. I'm very very excited about McLaren next year, Hamilton and Button. What a team!

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A cyclist to big up this year should be World Champion Mountain Bike Downhiller Steve Peat, the guy is a legend and an inspiration to thousands of kids (and grown-ups) who get out Mountain Biking every weekend, not just here but around the world where he is probably better known.
Sadly he is hardly heard of by the masses in this country due to our pathetic mainstream media.

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Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "Wasn't Giggs eligible for England having been brought up (I always though born in, but apparently not) in Salford/Manchester, as his dad moved up north to play for Swinton?

Anyway, I can't think of a more worthy winner of an award. The bloke should go down as one of the finest footballers ever and a great person, too, by all accounts.'"


Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "Possibly but in my opinion IF he was eligible (I don't know for certain either way) then choosing to play for the country of his birth rather than flying the flag of convenience is another feather in Giggs' cap.

Had he played for England then aside from any footballing benefits he also would have no doubt made a lot more money as he would have been an even bigger draw for sponsors. The fact that he put loyalty to his heritage first should be applauded not denigrated. Presumably Richeastender is the type of "Ingurlund Till I Die" merchant who is bitter towards Giggs because England's left wing has been bereft of talent for the majority of his career.

I hate Man United. I don't hate Ryan Giggs. That's pretty much the highest accolade I can pay him! I still would have voted for David Haye had I been in when SPOTY was on though.'"


See my post about his eligibility. If an Italian was brought up in England he would have been able to play for England but there are rules in place to stop this happening between English and Welsh lads (possibly Scottish and Norn Ironish lads as well). He is on record as saying if he did have the choice he would have played for Wales anyway because he is er Welsh and proud of it.

Dropkick, I've heard on many occasions the most bitter anti-United Liverpool fans talking about the respect they have for Giggs (and Scholes) and I think this speaks for itself. I don't know why there's so much fuss to be honest, there was not much opposition to Gascoigne winning in 90 (after a decent World Cup), Owen in 98 (After one decent game in the World Cup) and Beckham in 2001 (after a decent game in a World Cup Qualifier). It's good to see that it's the third player to win it who have scored winning goals for United against City icon_biggrin.gif .

For what's it's worth I don't think Giggs was the best person to win it and it was won out of sentiment of what he has done over a career rather than what he has done this year, a bit like the PFA award he won this year, but he was possibly the best person out of the ten nominees.

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I think giggs deserved this award he is a credit to the game, playing for man united for 20 years and i cant remember a bad headline, you dont see him falling out of nightclubs like a lot of other players only time he was in trouble was at the age of 17 when he was in a club that some ex united players bought and he was sat on the owners car which he left in the club and told him to off when asked to move haha.

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I'll big up who I like. Wiggins did very well, no doubt. Cavendish won six stages. That is a hefty achievement whether you like it or not.

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Mark Cavendish wins six stages of the worlds greatest drugfest... I mean bike race. An incredible feat by anyone, but the fact that it was done by an Englishman (is a Manxman English?) makes it a huge acheivement.

Beth Tweddle wins a gymnastics world title in one of her lesser events at the (by Gymnastics standards) geriatric age of 24.

Boxing doesn't have the 'status' it once had, heavyweight boxing even less, but winning a world title in one of the senior divisions (WBA) against a beast like Valuev is something to be proud of.

Winning the premier motorsport world title has to put Jenson Button up there.

Jessica Ennis became world champion at the womens multi-discipline atheltics event. Had a man done the same then he would be compared to the great Daley Thompson and probably be a household name.

All of these reached the highest pinnacle of their chosen sport and (except for Cavendish) became world champion in 2009.

Despite being a great bloke and a fantastic footballer, what did Ryan Giggs actually acheive in 2009. Did he single handedly drag Utd to the League Title in 2009? Did he score a record number of goals in 2009? With X-Factor dominating the TV viewing figures on Sunday night and many (including me) having to V+ SPotY to watch it later, I suspect that the Sports Personality was 'hijacked' by Utd fans.

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