Paul Cullen and Mark Forster were 2 players who made good long careers out of limited talent but had the dedication and commitment to make the very most out of what they had.

Would also Nat Wood more recently who had bags of heart and was incrand edibly fit but not the most talented half back ever.

I would hope that Kevin Penny could look at someone like Mark Forster and realise that just because he's struggling to get into the Warrington team this season, dedication and effort will be rewarded. Kevin is much faster obviously, just needs to apply himself and keep learning and could have a long career at the top.

Agree about Cull.
Some talent but real determination.

Stephen hawkins..

\westwood.

David Beckham.

That's actually a good call.

Not really, Beckhams been one of the best midfielders of my generation.

He was a winger who wasnt fast, couldnt take anyone on and didnt really pitch in with much other than what was his main attribute a wicked cross.
Ok, he was one of if not the best crosser of a ball in his generation but not much else. His status does not match his ability as there are far far far better players who have not had the same hype / coverage as he got.

Honest to god he could never be described as one of the best midfielders of any generation.

One of the best crossers of the ball ever, but thats it. Got found out in La Liga, especially seen as the media weren't in his back pocket over there.

current warrington players
Westwood
Wood
Clarke
Bridge
Grix
V Anderson

Current SL

Paliarsinya
Coley
Carmont
Roberts
Infact everyone at Wigan bar Sam Tompkins ,leuluai and Richards
JJB
Everyone at Wakefield bar Brough and drew
Everyone at cas Bar Shenton
Everyone at Huddersfield
Everyone at Bradford Bar Deacon ,Morrison
Everyone at Hull and Kr bar dobson
Everyone at Catalan Bar Mogg
Everyone at Salford Bar Myler
Everyone at Crusaders
Everyone at Quinns

If anything Padders, I'd say folk like Bridge & V.Anderson have more natural talent than they've shown, sort of the reverse of what you're saying. If anything, they lack the graft to match their skillset.

"Who hasn't made the most of natural talent." maybe, sort of.

What a load of ball locks. Wont discuss it in detail as its a rl thread but you clearly are a kopite

the only reason Wigan are in that position is because they have a top coach who can get the best out of all his players.....we should follow and learn

Just an opinion shared by a lot of football experts, and mates including Man United season ticket holders.

Yes, but he has made the most out of limited talent. Huge commitment, very fit hard working, clearly worked very hard.

So someone that has done a huge amount without say the natural talent of Gazza, Le Tiss etc.