i give this thread 2/10.

The only reason it didn't get zero was the part underlined that made me chuckle for some reason, with Hellery being a slap head.

If you will permit an outsider to have a take on the situation?
It is not really Jimmy Lowes' fault. He is only operating at the limit of his competence. The fault lies with those who appointed him, a Board that knows precious little about rugby league, and judging by the preponderance of politicians and local government officers, knows little more about running a business.
In the words of a famous chant from Saints supporters in the 1980's "Sack the Board!"

To the tune of "drop the boy"
by bros...











p.s good post saint rabben..

Before the season started I was on here saying how Lowes deserved time to show what he could do with the team over the course of a full season with a full pre season behind him to get his own ideas across.

In 3 games he has changed my mind.

He has taken us so far backwards in such a short space of time it beggars believe. The man in so out of his depth and needs to go as soon as possible.

One thing that won't help though is booing the team on the pitch. They need all the support they can get to try and rebuild their confidence and get a bit of self belief back. Any protest at trying to get the board to remove Jimmy or for him to do the honourable thing and resign should take place before/after the game.

and what happens if we are 30.10 down(like friday)cant see many singing there hearts out...the vultures are looming....lowes out and the board as well

I wouldn't expect to be singing either. Just saying booing does no good but that is one mans choice from another.
Anyway, your being optimistic thinking we'll score 10 past Leeds.

Woah, hang on a minute, Cull did a brilliant job in the 5 or so years he was in charge, look at where we were and how we played when he took over to where we were and how we played before his last season. There is a galaxy of difference between the two

Matt&Sonia must be related to Lowes in some way. Calling for the fans to get behind him simply won't happen until our squad of big names start playing to its potential. And thats his job which he's failing at on a grand scale. We haven't won a game since last August, and the way we're going I don't know where our next win will come from.

I expect that a number of supporters will say its down to the players, but when we're playing 5 drives and a kick, have a terrible defensive structure, and don't seem to use the halves or backs until its too late and the game has been lost, then the buck has to stop with the coaching staff. Lowes is miles out of his depth, which becomes more apparant each time we play. The players confidence must be rock bottom and I haven't heard anything from Lowes that suggests he has the man management skills to do anything about it.

The board need to act now and remove Lowes before our season is over before its started. They must make the most important signing in the past 5 years by getting Tony Smith earlier than planned. If we have to wait for next season when he's out of contract with the RFL, then an interim coach needs to brought in with more experience than Lowes. I don't know who but someone but be available ?

Your off your trolley.We should take the Royal Bank Of Scotland as a prime example to have a total clearout.Get in so much sh$te,p$ss the shareholders + tax payers off that much that the only choice is to have a cull starting from the very top then to start allover again because this club is being run by clowns.Let's not put all the blame here on Lowes who by the way i don't think is up for the job as this is for all to see by his demeanor + his arrogance when facing the press.Any business that is facing hard times always must do drastic things to stop it from getting worse + this club is no different.A major cull is what is needed now before it is to late.

Thanks Mum.


By the way anyone who still thinks Lowes has got a future at Warrington after his antics on Friday night must be on crack.

according to ceo of wigan we're gettin tony smith

Do we need to get rid of Jimmy who i believe has put a professionalusm into the squad that wasnt there before. What we are seeing are some 'senior' players not responding to the culture of we train hard and play hard and results will come. Not we take our pay home and no matter what we still get paid all year, even if we finish last.
The problem is when you make a stand you need to know where you can take it, get rid of the dead wood or will the board (simon) back the players and get rid of the coach!!!
Fine if we have support for the new coach to deal with the issues or its start again with a new head coach with his hands tied.

Thats exactly what did for pc the board backed a player(s) over the coach and it all went down hill rapidly.

If they now change there mind and allow Lowes to remove the dead wood I will be very suprised, actually in that situation no coach can solve our probles so once again I guess it comes back to the board.

It is a belief I have had for a while, we are a playercentric club. But it is inevitable when we have a squad loaded with experienced internationals, headed up by an inexperienced coach with no track record of success (I include Cull in that definition too). The only way to remedy this is if/when a new coach comes in, it has to be his way totally, what he says goes, regardless of the situation.

OR introduce the concept of a 'director of coaching' as the link between coach (Jimmy) and the board. He has to know that he can remove problems and recruit where he wants. If that is Tony Smith i would leave Jimmy as coach involved with the players and Smith to organise the strategic view.