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Quote: Briers Is God "theyre not in order, just pairing the winger with the centre'"
Fair enough. Wouldn't it be easier to just put them in order though, as the difference between left wing and right wing is pretty important...

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



Since he arrived in the country, King has barely managed to rise to the level of a mediocre centre. I've always considered him as a wing that can play centre rather than an out and out centre, so I would be more than happy for him to remain on the wing whether it's outside of Bridge, Johnson, or even (if he was switched to the right) Gleeson.

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Quote: keithcun "And it's honestly took you that long to work it out. Penny is/was the scapegoat.'"



By 'those inside' I don't mean Briers/Monaghan, btw. I'm referring to the middle four bunching around the ruck.

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Quote: Briers Is God "theyre not in order, just pairing the winger with the centre'"


half the problem is we have a coach that does not know what his best 17 is and is trying to experiment when all this should have been done in pre season games

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[quote="Eddie Hemmings said not ":1h9um51j] "Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]:



Quote: simons2107 "
half the problem is we have a coach that does not know what his best 17 is and is trying to experiment when all this should have been done in pre season games'"

But we haven't made wholesale changes since the end of 2008 so it shouldn't be too difficult to come up with a best 17!

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For all you who think Lowes Is Wrong to Drop Penny. Ask yourself this question.
If Penny was To stand And defend with on Foot to the left of His opposite Winger and never get sucked in would he ever be out of position to Tackle his opposite Number?

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Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "For all you who think Lowes Is Wrong to Drop Penny. Ask yourself this question.
If Penny was To stand And defend with on Foot to the left of His opposite Winger and never get sucked in would he ever be out of position to Tackle his opposite Number?'"


No he wouldn't but to continually do that he would be guilty of defending the field rather than defending by reacting to the play.

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Quote: Steve51 "No he wouldn't but to continually do that he would be guilty of defending the field rather than defending by reacting to the play.'"


At least He wouldnt Be running From the Middle of the Field Trying to Stop Ade Gardner Getting in the Corner? He is his own worst enemy

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Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "At least He wouldnt Be running From the Middle of the Field Trying to Stop Ade Gardner Getting in the Corner? He is his own worst enemy'"


And what exactly was Matt King doing when Pelo breezed in unchallenged on Saturday?

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Quote: SEB "And what exactly was Matt King doing when Pelo breezed in unchallenged on Saturday?'"


Well its basic Wing play to me

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I want King on the wing. Preferably with another wing and a fuselage attached with the words 'Qantas' on the side.

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Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "Well its basic Wing play to me'"


So which one is better - Penny actually making a tackle, albeit sometimes going over the tryline with his opposite number or allowing him to get an offload away - or King, looking totally lost and not laying a finger on anyone?

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Quote: SEB "So which one is better - Penny actually making a tackle, albeit sometimes going over the tryline with his opposite number or allowing him to get an offload away - or King, looking totally lost and not laying a finger on anyone?'"


I just think if you lpay on the wing you should stay on the wing. If matt king did that he wouldnt let anyone through

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Quote: Bobbie_the_coach "I just think if you lpay on the wing you should stay on the wing. If matt king did that he wouldnt let anyone through'"


Jesus wept.

And if Penny did that they would waltz through the 10 metre gap between him and the rest of the defence (King mainly).

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I think people need to look a bit further than just King or Penny for the weaknesses on that left hand side. Anderson and Monaghan to be exact.

Everyone is always saying how good our right side is. Well look at the people out there, Hicks, Gleeson, Westwood, Briers. 3 out of 4 of them barely set a foot wrong, ever, yet on the left hand side...

The whole left side needs a shake up, not just the centre and wing

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