Not many, honestly, but it's a good chunk of players we need to sign when we're hardly looking like title contenders which will mean the asking price will go up.

Still to hear news on Matty Blythe, Benjamin Jullien, George King and Kevin Penny. Realistically that's another two gone which will mean this preseason we lose 1/2 coaches and 7/9 players. One heck of an important off season with a green CEO.

The likelihood is that we have players signed, but are waiting till that teams season is over till we announce.

I'd expect quite a few announcements on contract extensions etc over the next two weeks - we always seem to group the announcements together.

There will certainly be wholesale changes though, no doubt about that - presumably TS had been working with Moran on 2018 signings before he left, I can't believe we are waiting for a new coach to come in before we start looking - it will be too late by then.

You must have been under a stone or shell. It's been about for months.

I thought benjamin Jullien signed a 3 year deal with us?

Nothing from the club though - which is the point.

The point?

Ashton Sims himself said he was leaving months ago and Sims is a member of the club. Does everything have to come from KF to be valid?

Good club man Sims. 100%er and the sort of player you need in your team.

Goes leaving a good taste and with a good reputation. Wish him well.

Quote: rubber duckie "The point? Ashton Sims himself said he was leaving months ago and Sims is a member of the club. Does everything have to come from KF to be valid?'" Was the before or after this? www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... of_future/ Anyway the news has finally hit the WG now www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... confirmed/

Quote: rubber duckie "The point? Ashton Sims himself said he was leaving months ago and Sims is a member of the club. Does everything have to come from KF to be valid?'" Was the before or after this? www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... of_future/ Anyway the news has finally hit the WG now www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... confirmed/

Whilst I tend to agree, I will struggle in a few years time to recall anything of particular note about any of his performances (either good or bad).

The thing about Sims is that his appearance doesn't match his on field skills or ability. Not a criticism. He's a good player without being great.

On the face of it he looks a beast. Aggressive looks, enforcer type presence etc., so that's what people expected when he played. But that's never been his game. Take away the hair and Thor nickname and see him for what he is. A SuperLeague standard prop with the right attitude, decent offload and quick ptb.

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Sometimes it's hard separating the wheat from the chaff, especially when there's that much chaff being spouted.....

You're mixing local press reports, with official club announcements. We still announced him before Penrith.

Thanks for the effort Ashton. Didn't possess too much talent but his motivation no doubt helped us scrape some wins when they looked in doubt. Will be remembered fondly. Shame to see him go, i expect to see other names out the door if he's one.

Actually Sims did an immense job along with Hill last season, effectively the only 2 front line props we had. Always put in a shift and compared to some of our "big name " prop signings been v good value.

^^^^ this

Sims has done what has been asked of him and what he has done al his career, we knew what we was getting not a player that will be a wrecking ball but someone who offers a fast play the ball off loads and is deceptively strong ohh and 100% commitment and effort !!

I don't think there's a game he has played for us where he has not given his all wether that's good enough or not is just an opinion but we've had good value from him and he is just a great rugby guy who I'm sure will be misssd by the players too !!

I also think hill has looked at his best when both he and sims are on the field together they complement each other well.

Anyways I'm sure he will be in a promotion winning Toronto team and back in SL if he continues.