One of the main problems these days is that the man in the street has developed so many more interests than trudging to watch his local team every week be it rugby or football & in our neck of the woods many people are struggling to make ends meet without paying out to go to the match.

Its alright banging on about the rights & wrongs of P&R but is it realistic ? You can't expect to take a player out of a job when his team get promoted to SL for what might be one season then next season the team get relegated & the team have to find jobs again which isn't very likely now or for many years to come. After all it only a means of earning a living for these players. To make P&R viable all the players would have to be paid the same way ,either all full time pros or all part time pros.

I forgot Swinton's huge crowds pre 96, i remember all the sell out games?
Another one blaming the system in its entirety, that's just lazy. Granted there are now obstacles in the way but don't use that as the get out clause for shoddy work behind the scenes.

For a lot of lower league clubs, even when there was still promotion and relegation a few years back, they struggled to get crowds of more than a few hundred every week. If the prospect of the Super League dream couldn't get the public out then there is no long term future being anything other than a small local semi pro club. Nothing wrong with that, but that is the level of interest in RL in that area. Don't kid yourselves that bringing back promotion and relegation would develop new interest in the town, if you couldn't get it in the years before P&R was scrapped.

You are obviously entitled to support a system that favours a 'chosen' few, rewards mediocrity and kills off ambition.

Would a rejuvenated Swinton attract more or less fans/interest than the recent or current set ups of London and their city neighbours Salford City Reds?

I'm not against London or Salford particularly, good luck to them both as we need competition, but, what I am against is unfairness, we are, or should be one sport in my opinion.

Leigh's crowds boomed when they were promoted.

That's their business not ours surely?

There is a difference between not grasping an opportunity and being denied one, I did 'say' in a previous post that it could be dependant upon qualification criteria, preferably criteria that are transparent and not cock eyed to paper over a crisis or to maintain the status quo no matter what

Don't blame the lack of P and R. Swinton's future (or lack of it) was decide when their Directors sold Station Road and only told the fans afterwards. I really hope that they find a place that they can call their own.

And if you were a Whitehaven fan and found out that two players who together no doubt take up the entire Championship salary cap) were going to play against you?

In a couple of months Swinton v Keighley could well decide which club gets relegated. How would you feel as a a Keighley supporter if Swinton fielded Briers, Morley et al?

I'd be quite p[leased since those two didn't play in the cup game so its an opportunity to see them

I would feel that maybe my club should have also exploited the dual registration opportunities.

I'm not in favour of mediocrity. I've said for a long time there are too many teams in SL and some should be cut - 10 would be a good number, get rid of the chaff.

The franchising system gives a route for teams that are ambitious and have the right structures in place. How did Widnes get back in SL? Its just as well Widnes didn't 'give up on ambition'. But if we're an ambitious sport we can't have mediocre clubs coming into SL on the back of winning a part time competition, when they still have part time infrastructure and part time attitudes.

Aim high, get investors on board, invest in your facilities and your youth system and then you can put together a good franchise bid.

But I agree with you that the current set up of London and teh recent set up of Salford are/were not good enough, cut them, cut Wakefield and Cas too.

Swinton have won twice as many RL championships as Warrington.

Yes, but when did they last win anything of note?

You can only win what you are in. 2011 championship 1 champions!

Good turnout from the wire fans tonight and it is much appreciated. Hope you enjoyed the game, maybe not the best rugby you've seen but a cracking competitive game.