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| Quote: the flying biscuit "
And How Bizare is it that the Same Wigan fans that havent been to Wembley for FIFTEEN long painful hurtfull years are now telling us its an easy competition to win..!!! well have a go at it if it so easy.....
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Been twice thanks, won both times.
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Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10174.png |
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| Quote: the flying biscuit "makes me laugh this a couple of years ago Wigan fans would be telling us at every opportunity that they won the Challenge cup 8 times on the bounce...everyone knows this ...no one knows that they won the league even more times on the bounce because'"
... because it's not true
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| No,because Warringtons time will come. Another couple of seasons before we win a G.F. If am honest i dont think will win anything next season.
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| The CC will always be the fans, and players, one to win. Even Cunningham said the highlight of his career was lifting the CC.
The GF is little more than a cut down knock-out, where some teams get a second chance.
The True champions are the team that win the league, and though it pains me to say congrats to Wigan for that, it's just Sky and their money spinning media that try to make the GF big.
Would football have a play off at the end of the season to decide the champions? Think a certain Mr F would have something to say about that!
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52564_1283507926.jpg [quote="JWP":1jw53b9f]At the end of the day mate, we've stuck with the minger from school and she's turned out to be a stunner, so don't try and nick her off us, y'know, we've waited a long time for this, took the laughs along the way etc. You, you took the one who had big knockers by the 3rd year and you've had your fun but now sadly it's all looking a bit rough around the edges now, tough.[/quote:1jw53b9f]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52564.jpg |
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| NO. as a fan the two trips to wembley have been amazing event. just waking up early, getting on a coach down there for hours then walk around a huge stadium like wmebley and then watch wire win. one word to say priceless!
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| I'd agree with what most on here have said.
As brilliant as it is to be Champions, winning back to back Challenge Cups is a fantastic achievement.
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| Quote: inside_man "Nail on the head there for me.
The whole romance of the challenge cup is about the day out at Wembley, and it is a fantastic competition to win.
But on a competitive front, champions of super league is a much higher acclaim.
Then again, topping the league is the hardest challenge of all and that gets the least acclaim.
FWIW, I know a lot of you won't feel the same. But i'd rather win the super league once than the challenge cup twice. I'm not trying to belittle your achievement but who have you had to beat? Granted you can only beat whats put in front of you and fair play for doing so, but if you offered them to the players which do you think they'd rather achieve?'"
Who have we had to beat? You are kidding aren't you? Last year we had to beat Wigan in the Semis and this year we had Leeds, the (debatably now I grant you but) best team in SL in the final? Think about what you are saying please.
Of course winning the GF and SL is special. Of course I would love Warrington to win both. Frankly I am happy for us to win ANYTHING. Beats an empty cabinet.
I think I am old school though. Having watched the Wire for over 20 years, the CC and Wembley will always be special. I still get goosebumps when I remember that journey, that game and that win. Incidently I think it is Wembley that 'makes it'. The years when the CC was played elsewhere didin't appear to have the same magic?
In all honesty why compare. A winner's medal is a winner's medal. The Warrington players do have 2 back to back ones to clean however?
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| Quote: NCB "Incidently I think it is Wembley that 'makes it'. The years when the CC was played elsewhere didin't appear to have the same magic?
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Could that be because we didn't compete in any of those finals? I wonder what people would answer to this question if we appeared in and lost both finals next year, or even lost one and won the other?
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| Quote: NCB "
Of course winning the GF and SL is special. Of course I would love Warrington to win both. Frankly I am happy for us to win ANYTHING. Beats an empty cabinet.
I think I am old school though. Having watched the Wire for over 20 years, the CC and Wembley will always be special. I still get goosebumps when I remember that journey, that game and that win. Incidently I think it is Wembley that 'makes it'. The years when the CC was played elsewhere didin't appear to have the same magic?
In all honesty why compare. A winner's medal is a winner's medal. The Warrington players do have 2 back to back ones to clean however?'"
Probably cos I'm a bit younger so wasn't around for all the Wigan dominance in the CC. But for me the GF means a hell of a lot more, but as I say thats just me.
I agree though, both are very special. My point is though which (as a player) would you feel looking back on your career as a greater achievement?
Quote: NCB "Who have we had to beat? You are kidding aren't you? Last year we had to beat Wigan in the Semis and this year we had Leeds, the (debatably now I grant you but) best team in SL in the final? Think about what you are saying please. '"
Wigan who were a poor side last year. Leeds who haven't been the best this year.
But for what its worth, I don't think anyone could have beaten you in either cup.
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| C C ,you win 6 games some against very low league competitors and get a trophy. The G F means you have to win at least 15 games (nearer 2 dozen in Wigans case)to get to the play off stage then win another 2 or 3 against the top 8 teams in Europe to be crowned winners !!! No comparison.
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| Quote: Too old to die young "
Spot on
Winning the Challenge Cup is a special acheivement but winning the Grand Final can not be put in the same bracket?
I'd rather win one Grand Final than 5 Challenge Cups
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50086_1357229109.jpg [b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag.
[b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg |
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| I'd rather be SuperLeague Champions. Mind you, Back to Back CC winners is awesome too.
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| Quote: Bondi_Warrior "Does help when Wembley holds around 15,000 more, so not really sure how thats even a point.
The Wembley weekend is far better as an event, but the GF is a more prestigious and regardless of how you spin it, its still the main prize. IMO id rather have what we have, the challenge cup is great but its the 2nd prize. We even topped the league to prove we are worthy champions. However neither of us should be jealous of each other, we have both had success and both look like we will challange again.'"
It is a point because Old Trafford never sells out for the Grand Final, so it wouldn't matter if it could hold 100,000.
Before we'd been to Wembley and won the cup, I'd have chosen Wembley everytime. Now we've done it twice, I'd happily swap Wembley for a third time for a Grand Final. As Bondi says, neither us nor Wigan should be jealous of one another as we've both achieved great things this season.
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| Quote: Too old to die young "
Or alternatively, to win the CC you cannot lose a match. Whereas to win the GF, you can lose a fair few on the way.
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