Whilst it is a positive that we are playing these teams, as it means that we are generally in control of our own destiny, it looks like Huddersfield's run in is a bit easier than ours.

Our game against them is a crucial one in terms of putting the pressure on them.

We'll lose against Saints then tail off for a while... be lucky to finish 6th.

Superb.

I had a bet before the season started. £5 ew after the regular rounds. Places for 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I am still hopeful of getting something back off that after writing it off a few weeks ago. I am more hopeful of getting something back from the fiver ew to win the challenge cup.

I said on a topic a month or so ago that we are less than spectacular but consistently efiicient in an Australian / german stylee.

Think everything below Saints/Leeds is up for grabs. Don't see any reason why we can't finish top 4. None of the sides 3rd to 6th are exactly ripping up any trees. We've got to improve our attack but defence is winning games for us. Can't be talking about Wire can I? Defence winning us games???

3rd is a defo possbility. Big thing is IF yo ulose to saints on Saturday, will it result in a run of losses as happens each year. If that occurs you could finish out the top 8.

Regardless of how many points are between each club, taking the opposition, venue and the fact that were in another competition into consideration then i believe we will finish 5th although we should be aiming for 4th.

I believe the game against Hull KR away will determine 4th and 5th, we win the game and finish 4th we lose the game and finish 5th, you can forget 3rd because we will lose to many games to finish that high.

We're in another competition? Of those going for 3rd, so are Huddersfield.

You've already said whoever wins between us and HKR could finish 4th.

So, again I ask why is there "no chance" of finishing 3rd ?

We've won 8 out of our last 10 (I think). If we get 5 out of our last 8, we might struggle for 3rd, but not necessarily. If we win 6, I think we'd do it.

Huddersfield will be knocked out in the semi-final whereas we will be playing in the final.

It's just my opinion, although ive stated on another thread we will win 5 out of 8 i'm uncertain about Wigan away straight after the Semi-final so if we win 4 out of 8 we wont finish 3rd, Huddersfield away in the next couple of weeks will be no mugs either.

I just think it's far too bold a statement to say "no chance" when we were miles away two months ago and now we could be 4th in two weeks time, level on points with 3rd. The momentum is with us.

10 points off third, will be a big ask at this stage, although 5th could still be a possibility as we are only 2 points behind Wigan. Makes you wonder what we could have achieved if we'd not sacrificed the league because of our cup run.

Thanks for mention.

9th place, perhaps to be tenth after this weekend if Catalans beat Salford by a decent margin.

If only Sinfield had missed that kick on Saturday would have at least taken points difference out of the equation which could well be the difference between making the playoffs and missing out.

Can only say good things about Che Smith's tenure so far, but did no one else expect to be a bit higher in the league at this stage of the season even after our poor start?

Still a Wembley final appearance will more than make up for missing out on the playoffs if it happens.

Not really.

It's all about pre-season for me, until we have one, with a proper coach, we're playing catch up to teams that did have one, with a decent coach. A pre-season & some recruitment, I'll be very hopeful for 2010. I've seen the improvement in some the fellas he's got, Cooper & Harrison, Monaghan, Mathers and such.

I've seen more half time turnarounds, wins not playing well & player enthusiasm under Smith than I saw in probably 3/4 years, so I'm happy.

I can relate to what's going on, I feel part of the journey under Smith, I felt remote to Lowes, the product he was offering me, didn't look or feel that enjoyable.

A bit like tripe then??