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| Quote ="Optimism"£500k no doubt,
Your fellow Pies were adamant he had a clause in his contract allowing him to leave Warrington if we finished outside the 6, freeing him up to sign for Wigan.
So you can blame Tricky Dicky for us rubbing it in'"
Im not sure how this confirms he did not have a clause in his contract?
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| Quote ="jonh"Good news for you lot top domestic player, clearly not World Class. I dont know where the Wigan link came from other than speculation.
I would have liked him at Wigan as i feel a new environment could have sitmulated him to perform as he did a couple of years ago which was world class, he has failed to hit those heights since.
Hopefully for the sake of GB and Wire the new conditioner and team mates can encourage him to step up to the level of previous performances.
I also think on current form there for Wigan will be better options for the money but if he does regain the world class form he is capable of then worth every penny of what im sure must be a significant contract.'"
You haven't got the foggiest about Glees, or RL in general given your appearances on here.
Gleeson has done very well for us, his 'supa' Saints form is a myth, his under performing here is a myth (barr a ropey by his own standards 2006).
As i've said, next year, I think he'll be superb.
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| Quote ="jonh"Im not sure how this confirms he did not have a clause in his contract?'"
We finished outside the top 6.....
Oh never mind, you're just being silly now
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| "but recovered to play a pivotal role in Great Britain's Test series win over New Zealand. " ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| Quote ="Judge dredd""but recovered to play a pivotal role in Great Britain's Test series win over New Zealand. "
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Started all three tests.
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| Quote ="john_wilshires_physio"Started all three tests.'" And?
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| Quote ="Judge dredd"And?'"
and played fairly well in all 3. Was quiet on Saturday but was good in the first 2 tests.
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| Quote ="Judge dredd"And?'"
So, he played a pivotal role didn't he. If he'd only played in say 1, or a couple of sub appearances, he'd have been on the periphary.
Given the number of players that played in the series, what with players 'rested' & dropped, he must have done something right.
It doesn't matter though does it 'dredd', your blinkered hatred of Glees' goes before anything.
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| Pivotal-'Being of vital or central importance; crucial' and that describes Gleeson in the tests does it?
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| Quote ="john_wilshires_physio"
It doesn't matter though does it 'dredd', your blinkered hatred of Glees' goes before anything.'" Todays made up fact.
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| A Warrington fan slagging off one of his own is bad enough, but slagging off one of his own that happens to be one of the best centres in the world....
Either that or you aren't a Warrington fan, in that case, your opinion means about as much as Graham Appo
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| Quote ="Judge dredd"Todays made up fact.'"
No it isn't. He's always the person you 'attack'. (In the loosest sense.)
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| So looking at a players performance objectivily is slagging him off? I happen to believe that you don't have to take a blinkered view of a team to be a fan.
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| Quote ="john_wilshires_physio"No it isn't. He's always the person you 'attack'. (In the loosest sense.)'" I assure i do not have a "blinkered hatred of Glees'", so yes it is a made up fact.
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| Quote ="Judge dredd"So looking at a players performance objectivily is slagging him off? I happen to believe that you don't have to take a blinkered view of a team to be a fan.'"
Well the stand out moment of the tests for me was Gleeson's pass out to Ade Gardner at Hull, which is a classic example of his main quality. He didn't make many, if any mistakes, so yes, he did play a very important role in the 3 tests, as did anyone else who played in all 3 games.
Gleeson is probably one of our most consistent players of 2007, so instead of looking to find a bad point, start to realise that a 2 year extension of his contract is nothing but a good thing.
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| Quote ="Judge dredd"I assure i do not have a "blinkered hatred of Glees'", so yes it is a made up fact.'"
Okay whatever.
I just wonder why the hell then at every mention of the bloke, your like a broken record going on about his under performances. If we listened to you, he's been crap for us for 4 years and poor for GB.
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| Quote ="Optimism"Well the stand out moment of the tests for me was Gleeson's pass out to Ade Gardner at Hull, which is a classic example of his main quality. He didn't make many, if any mistakes, so yes, he did play a very important role in the 3 tests, as did anyone else who played in all 3 games.
Gleeson is probably one of our most consistent players of 2007, so instead of looking to find a bad point, start to realise that a 2 year extension of his contract is nothing but a good thing.'" Out of the two centres playing for Gb, senior made a far far bigger contribution in attacks than gleeson did who had a 'steady' 3 games.
As far as his 2 year extension goes, i'm glad we are keeping him, i just hope we are paying a 'reasonable wage'
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| Quote ="john_wilshires_physio"Okay whatever.
I just wonder why the hell then at every mention of the bloke, your like a broken record going on about his under performances. If we listened to you, he's been crap for us for 4 years and poor for GB.'" I've never said any of that.
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| I agree with the Wigan fans.
Gleeson is poop and they must be delighted there is no chance he is going there. King is paid half of our total wage bill and is vastly over-rated. Add to that Chris (who?) Hicks who doesn't even make it onto an online poll and the lightweight one season wonder Kev Penny and you can see how poor our backs are going to be next season.
I wish we had Wigan's outside backs instead.
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| Quote ="Judge dredd"Out of the two centres playing for Gb, senior made a far far bigger contribution in attacks than gleeson did who had a 'steady' 3 games.
As far as his 2 year extension goes, i'm glad we are keeping him, i just hope we are paying a 'reasonable wage''"
There's always two sides though Judge. Far more ball went left did it not. I thought Gleeson was effective without being brilliant. Defensively he was very good.
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| Quote ="Judge dredd"Out of the two centres playing for Gb, senior made a far far bigger contribution in attacks than gleeson did who had a 'steady' 3 games.
As far as his 2 year extension goes, i'm glad we are keeping him, i just hope we are paying a 'reasonable wage''"
95% of the attack went down the GB left side, its the polar opposite of how warrington play, and the only reason people are saying he had a bad game the other day is because of that pass he put down when he was in the gap, however its possibly only the 2nd pass he did get all game so it stands out more, and it was a bad pass.
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| Quote ="john_wilshires_physio"There's always two sides though Judge. Far more ball went left did it not. I thought Gleeson was effective without being brilliant. Defensively he was very good.'"
Top tackler in the backs over the 3 tests I believe
Couldn't have been that bad then
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| Quote ="Cattastic"95% of the attack went down the GB left side, its the polar opposite of how warrington play, and the only reason people are saying he had a bad game the other day is because of that pass he put down when he was in the gap, however its possibly only the 2nd pass he did get all game so it stands out more, and it was a bad pass.'"
That pass was coming mightily fast aswell, I think most people would have dropped it at that speed
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| Quote ="john_wilshires_physio"There's always two sides though Judge. Far more ball went left did it not. I thought Gleeson was effective without being brilliant. Defensively he was very good.'" Tbh i think senior is just quicker and stronger than gleeson, he probably did get more better ball than gleeson but he also used his strength to break attempted tackles, it's been awhile since i've seen gleeson use those 'quick feet' . Yes he is good defensivly.
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| Quote ="Cattastic"95% of the attack went down the GB left side, its the polar opposite of how warrington play, and the only reason people are saying he had a bad game the other day is because of that pass he put down when he was in the gap, however its possibly only the 2nd pass he did get all game so it stands out more, and it was a bad pass.'" So he was'nt pivotal to the test series win then?
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