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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "It's been decided and it's Dean Pay (said that on previous page).'"


You absolutely sure on that? I hope you are right, but the bookies had Price as favourite yesterday.

If true about Pay, I hope that the club hasn't agreed to a get out clause if a top NRL club comes calling mid-contract.

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Well there's a new report in Australia suggesting Maguire to Warrington and Pay to Dogs.

I'll be happy with either. Can't see it being Price.

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I wonder how the caliber of our appointed coach will compare to the potential appointee if we would we have dispensed with our Tone back in March? I guess we will never know

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Quote: Uncle Rico "I wonder how the caliber of our appointed coach will compare to the potential appointee if we would we have dispensed with our Tone back in March? I guess we will never know'"



that was roughly when Hasler agreed an extension with the Dogs so I guess we would have had more of chance of getting Pay then. He's now got more options.

........but you're right we'll never know

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Quote: Uncle Rico "I wonder how the caliber of our appointed coach will compare to the potential appointee if we would we have dispensed with our Tone back in March? I guess we will never know'"


Please tell me this isn't a "we were right to wait" argument.

Maybe Saints should have waited too.

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Quote: Wires71 "Please tell me this isn't a "we were right to wait" argument.

Maybe Saints should have waited too.'"


Depends whether Maguire or Pay is the best man for the job. If it's Pay then TS probably should have gone sooner. Waiting till the end of the season has put us in with a shout of landing Maguire, which wouldn't have been the case otherwise.

I can accept accept the second half of the season if it means we land Maguire. Everyone wanted a proven Grand Final winning coach. Waiting till the end of the year has given us a shot at that. A mid season appointment would not.

Of course past performance isn't a guarantee of future success - hindsights wonderful isn't it.

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Quote: Alffi_7 "Depends whether Maguire or Pay is the best man for the job. If it's Pay then TS probably should have gone sooner. Waiting till the end of the season has put us in with a shout of landing Maguire, which wouldn't have been the case otherwise.

I can accept accept the second half of the season if it means we land Maguire. Everyone wanted a proven Grand Final winning coach. Waiting till the end of the year has given us a shot at that. A mid season appointment would not.

Of course past performance isn't a guarantee of future success - hindsights wonderful isn't it.'"

I don’t know about this “everyone wanted a proven GF winning coach” because we’ve already had one of those for eight years and not won a GF with him. Plus there have been numerous unproven coaches who’ve won the GF. I don’t think the experience of having won one before is import at at all.

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Quote: Wires71 "Please tell me this isn't a "we were right to wait" argument.

Maybe Saints should have waited too.'"


Maybe Leeds should have got rid of McDermott in 2016.

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The situation with us and TS compared to Saints and Cunningham was not the same (prior success etc) but if someone can't see that it is pointless trying to persuade them that there was a valid reason to sack Smith mid season. Does anyone actually believe Saints are anything other than a very average team? God forbid they win the title... they would then relieve themselves of the title of "Worst team to win SL".

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Quote: Wires71 "Please tell me this isn't a "we were right to wait" argument.

Maybe Saints should have waited too.'"

We'll I'd rather Pay or Maguire over Holbrook.

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Quote: easyWire "You absolutely sure on that? I hope you are right, but the bookies had Price as favourite yesterday.

If true about Pay, I hope that the club hasn't agreed to a get out clause if a top NRL club comes calling mid-contract.'"

I'm just passing on what I've been told from somebody who has been right and wrong in the past so we'll have wait and see.

I do know the club offered Maguire a ridiculous offer last week. Meaning he'd be the highest paid coach in the world by a distance.

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Quote: Lord Tony Smith "I'm just passing on what I've been told from somebody who has been right and wrong in the past so we'll have wait and see.

I do know the club offered Maguire a ridiculous offer last week. Meaning he'd be the highest paid coach in the world by a distance.'"


I hope he's worth it. He was on over a million Aussie dollars a season according to the Aussie press!

I'd have Maguire or Pay but I sort of had a good feeling about Pay as he's under less pressure to live up to expectations and I think that would help his decision making. He has a good record bringing younger players through but then so does Maguire and neither seems a soft touch so I'd expect every player to be highly disciplined and fighting for their place, only being picked when on form.

Let's see what happens now. I'm just glad for a fresh start.

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Quote: NtW "Maybe Leeds should have got rid of McDermott in 2016.'"


McDermott had a track record of winning Grand Finals with Leeds and the previous season had won the treble, and their team lost their inspirational leader. That excused their 2016.
Completely different argument for Smith, you must see that.

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This Saints bashing looks like small club mentality with us sniping jealously at our near neighbours. Of course it's not the best Saints team ever, no-one is saying that, the point is their management took a risk mid season and now they are in the playoffs and are 7/2 with Sporting Bet to win it outright.

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Quote: easyWire "neither seems a soft touch so I'd expect every player to be highly disciplined and fighting for their place, only being picked when on form.'"


This is just what our club needs. The time for touchy feely social worker coaching is gone. Shape up or ship out. Discipline, focus and a 'No excuses' culture. Less ing around at Starbucks and on panel quiz shows and more grit and determination.

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