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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "No alarm bells here, because what I'm seeing is pretty much what I expected. We have an underwhelming, overrated squad which needs a massive rebuild.
Powell's immediate job is to suss out those with a long term future and those without, and just under 2 months in, I reckon he will have a fair idea already. I just hope he has the backing of those above him to get rid of those he sees surplus to requirement.
To anyone criticising Powell, I'd say come back in 12-18 months and see what we have then and then maybe we can discuss his position as coach.'"
I just think those two players are so bang average, it would worry me what level he’s aiming at…..
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| Quote: WireWireWire "Don't know why Powell gets 2 years worth of good will but Price got about 4 games before people were paying for his ticket home. It's been 5 months and people are still fighting him on what he wants? Likely people with contracts that can't be shaken too. Powell won't change much of anything, we definitely won't be defending better under him.'"
Nah, things went sour for Price when we lost the first playoff in 2019 after our season fizzled out. He didnt help himself by repeating that same feat twice more.
Let's not retrospectively beatify Price.
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| Quote: Wires71 "Nah, things went sour for Price when we lost the first playoff in 2019 after our season fizzled out. He didnt help himself by repeating that same feat twice more.
Let's not retrospectively beatify Price.'"
Agreed, price did really well in the first season with us, he looked like he had a planand had put some really solid foundations in to place. Unfortunately after sorting the defence out the attack never followed and we then just went backwards. Looking back those 2 ultra Conservative finals pretty much set the tone under Steve Price and sadly the only time it worked in a final was against saints in the cup final.
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| Quote: Wires71 "Nah, things went sour for Price when we lost the first playoff in 2019 after our season fizzled out. He didnt help himself by repeating that same feat twice more.
Let's not retrospectively beatify Price.'"
Price didn’t do himself any favours telling us every week what kind of footy team he had.
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "Regrettably, DSM, we won't.
With regards to your second paragraph, the only player I can recall us offering an "open door" to leave, was Gleason. The rest are too happy picking up big salaries for minimal effort, for far too long . I don't see it changing, any time soon.'"
It wasn’t so much an ‘open door’ I think we got £100k off Pies for Gleeson. Only we bought him for £230k.
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| It's the players that are the problem and not powell, if players are butting heads with him it shows their arrogance and overinflated egos. The Powell out chants are rediculous and shows how sad our fans are. If it isn't IMMEDIATELY perfect lets all spit our dummies out and call to fire the coach straight away.
Powell will get rid of players who won't change and bring in people who want to learn and give it full effort. And he'll have some good money to use next year.
This year is a clichèd transitional year and people need to realise that, change, culture and attitude take time to implement. It's not something that happens overnight.
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| Quote: Shabino "I’ll tell you why I said it. Powell has done a great job at Cas, no denying that. But a very different set up. He has absolutely no experience in managing ego’s and unrealistic expectations. We were all thinking he’d be taking some decent players with him from Cas (Trueman, Watts, Evalds, McShane) but Holmes and Matautia…..
Surely this should be ringing some alarm bells at your end?'"
Literally a stupid post, "he has absolutely no experience managing egos".......what a moronic comment.
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| Quote: Or thane "Literally a stupid post, "he has absolutely no experience managing egos".......what a moronic comment.'"
Daryl? Is that you Daryl??
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| I think Powells comments are spot on, time for the players to stand up now and start producing. Powell needs to shaken it up though and get them out of their comfort zone, drop the worst offenders.
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| Powell's comments give me confidence that he knows that we're rotten and is going to fix it.
There aren't any excuses right now, I'm glad he'd not looking for any.
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| The problem he's got now is, he's alluding to players not playing for the team and how he wants to play, but if he doesn't make significant changes (significant can be dropping 1 name) he'll start to look at bit daft.
Injury update to run through who he can't play, then a team sheet to identify who he won't play, without saying it explicitly.
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| The tail has been wagging the dog at this club for a long time now. I read an article where Tony Smith explains Mickey Highams move to Leigh as the most bizarre transfer he has dealt with in May 2015. Just before the start of that season we accept Paul Woods transfer request and then we end up in the middle 8's.
I know woody and Higham were good mates but I do think that for a number of years players have felt comfortable in challenging the coaches decisions and if they dont like what is going on then not quite putting the required effort in.. I am sure there were players that were disappointed that Wood and Higham left but you are professional players.
I also read an article where Brian McDermott explained that Tony Smith had told him why he would never be a coach which led to Brian Mac changing his outlook so clear that TS was straight talking and honest to provide an opinion on where people were going wrong. Not everybody can handle that (you won't hear Barrie McDermott say a lot about TS on sky).
I suspect that some current players are not happy that we didn't retain Chris Hill or that Powell has brought a couple of Cas players and backroom staff with him and it might have started to upset the player power that has existed at Warrington since Morley and Monaghan left.
We had the same thing when Price put Ryan Atkins on the naughty step (although I do think that was a mistake).
I dont think established senior players are above criticism here. Yes they appear to give their all but you dont know what goes on behind closed doors.
I am happy that Powell is the right man for the job and time to break that cycle of player power. You dont see saints players sulking because they didn't keep Coote on for another year. You dont see them chuck their toys out of the pram because Wolfe has brought his mate Hurrell over to Saints. They get on with it because they know that they are not bigger than the club and if they did sulk they would be on their way out.
In just hope that Fitzpatrick, Middleton and Moran are able to provide the same message because if there is an inkling that they are not aligned with Powell then he is into loser from day one and the cycle will continue.
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| Quote: Deus Dat Incrementum "The tail has been wagging the dog at this club for a long time now. I read an article where Tony Smith explains Mickey Highams move to Leigh as the most bizarre transfer he has dealt with in May 2015. Just before the start of that season we accept Paul Woods transfer request and then we end up in the middle 8's.
I know woody and Higham were good mates but I do think that for a number of years players have felt comfortable in challenging the coaches decisions and if they dont like what is going on then not quite putting the required effort in.. I am sure there were players that were disappointed that Wood and Higham left but you are professional players.
I also read an article where Brian McDermott explained that Tony Smith had told him why he would never be a coach which led to Brian Mac changing his outlook so clear that TS was straight talking and honest to provide an opinion on where people were going wrong. Not everybody can handle that (you won't hear Barrie McDermott say a lot about TS on sky).
I suspect that some current players are not happy that we didn't retain Chris Hill or that Powell has brought a couple of Cas players and backroom staff with him and it might have started to upset the player power that has existed at Warrington since Morley and Monaghan left.
We had the same thing when Price put Ryan Atkins on the naughty step (although I do think that was a mistake).
I dont think established senior players are above criticism here. Yes they appear to give their all but you dont know what goes on behind closed doors.
I am happy that Powell is the right man for the job and time to break that cycle of player power. You dont see saints players sulking because they didn't keep Coote on for another year. You dont see them chuck their toys out of the pram because Wolfe has brought his mate Hurrell over to Saints. They get on with it because they know that they are not bigger than the club and if they did sulk they would be on their way out.
In just hope that Fitzpatrick, Middleton and Moran are able to provide the same message because if there is an inkling that they are not aligned with Powell then he is into loser from day one and the cycle will continue.'"
I don’t know if there are issues such as you describe. I do know that the Saints players gave a darn good impression of trying to get Cunningham the sack.
I am coming round to the view that Price got as much out of this group as was possible.
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