Like Rico says admitting there is a problem is the first step to rectifying it. He has been ok without really justifying his price tag but I will still back him to come good, needs to lose weight and improve his all round game. No reason he can't go and become a terrace hero, so long as he wants to and appreciates that he has a long way to go in order to reach that status.

I agree totally Yed
You've clearly gone big with this purchase monetary wise but with very little thought or research about what you were buying IMO
It's almost like buying a Audi R8 but with a 1L engine and then wonder why it's not performingicon_lol.gif

Most players take time to settle in, plenty of time for him to step up. I suspect TS has his measure, time will tell but don't think it's time to panic just yet.

The £125k isn't a big deal to us, we can afford that to spend on a player TS clearly sees as a project rather than the finished article.

Westerman on the other hand, a couple of defensive lapses aside looks like a very good buy.

Which, since Hull sit top currently, it clearly has done. We might not have value for money yet but a good way to look at it is we gave money to another SL club, which is good for the league in general if more teams do it.

Sorry Alffi I can't agree, £125k might not be a big deal to us, but, surely it is a big deal to spend that kind of cash on a 'project'?

Especially so if you are balancing the books across a squad and that TS's project will be getting paid a wage, probably a fairly decent one in comparative terms and in a capped sport.

Still don't really understand why the club released the Lineham/Bailey locker room video as it portrayed both players in a pretty bad light. Now adding to that the Daily Star interview and I have to wonder what on earth is going on (especially if the club sanctioned an interview with that rag). I'm dreading the day when he wins a Sky Man of the Match award, god know what he'll come out with!

The club need to give him some advice/training in dealing with the media and for the meantime he ought to shut up and start to do his 'talking' on the pitch.

I'm sorry for prattling on especially as a naysayer, but, whilst splashing the cash might be commendable, splashing it willy-nilly isn't a good business, or sporting model

There appears to be a lot of leaping to conclusions, as there were with Matt King (not saying he is in same class but his first season and reaction to the fans in "that" game may be relevant).

But TS (and myself) are not expecting Lineham to continue at his current level, we are expecting him to improve, if he doesn't the 'project' would absolutely be labelled as a definite failure.

He has signed a 4 year contract (I think?), if in years 2-4 he picks up his game and plays to his potential, then it was worthwhile.

Speculating £125k on a player who might improve makes Tom a pretty expensive apprentice.

I'd be disappointed if I was Kevin Penny. The two of them display/displayed the same frailties in their game, both have/had a bit of growing up to do, but both shown great attacking potential and boasted a good try scoring rate.

One gets a mega money deal, one gets a full time job and a Swinton Lions tracksuit.

I think Lineham can be a good player for the club, but as above, an expensive project

i think the worry that most of us have, is that he doesn't; have the stones to knuckle down, and improve himself, he should be looking at being the next ryan hall, based on size and body type, but he'd have to work bloody hard to improve himself.

And yes, the point about penny is a great one, he should be held up as a success story about what working hard will you get you.

Lineham's card is well and truly marked. It's becoming difficult to see a future for him here at this time. He doesn't seem the character to get a kick from deselection. More like he couldn't be too bothered either way.