Star Wars more like.

It seems like most teams have no idea what marketing is. There are more reasons that ever to not go to a game. Yet other sports are fine.

Most clubs sits on their hands and blame the RFL, while the RFL still thinks it's the 1950's.

All credit for KF for not looking for blame elsewhere are making the club accountable for its own promotion. And surprise, surprise, it's working. If all other clubs did the same then the Challenge Cup and UK RL in general would be in a much better place.

Toronto in their 3 short years of existence have promoted the game more than SKY / RFL / SL / BBC have in the past 20 years.

Toronto and Wire are head and shoulders above every other club in the country in the PR department. other clubs have tried this season to have a go and failed. Wigan and saints brought one out for their derby and it looked as though it was edited by a one armed, blindfolded chimp using only a stick and a potato.

We are probably some way behind Toronto too...they really are a yardstick.
Even their own fans promote over the social media platforms.

Think you are been a little unfair there. I support KR and some of the social media/KR TV/match day/community stuff the club do is spot on. We get it right off the pitch a lot ( sadly not on it)

A couple of years a go we were voted number 1 sports club in the UK for social media engagement and it's continued in a positive fashion.

I do think we are a bit insular in focusing just on the Hull area, but one of the pitfalls of having two clubs is the constant battle for the floating fans in the city.

You could also argue what Catalans have done since winning the CC has been fantastic, and the whole Barcelona events will add massive focus in that area.

Fair enough. But I think it's the innovation, originality and boldness which has impressed me with Warrington this year.

It's more about the RFL though. They just don't do any marketing and it's making their marquee competition suffer.

“The CC has lost its magic “

What would you say was the majic of the CC ?

Personally I can’t put my finger on it, I just know I’m not that bothered about it either way.

Possibly because supporters state they aren't bothered if we lose, which is something no supporter of any team should utter.

Wembley being half full makes the occasion an anti climax,plus the travelling and cost ,as it's considered very much a second rate competition these days. Whereas a packed Old Trafford inspires players and fans alike.Plus easy to reach and low cost.

Wembley in a nutshell, soulless with its do-nut ring of empty posh seats on a North London industrial estate. Add on to that the trains never seem to be running and it's become a neutral free zone.
Cardiff and Edinburgh were much better venues.

Well any stadium will be half empty and soulless if it's meat and drink customers are watching a competition they aren't bothered about.

This isn't the Locker Cup (which I [ialways[/i wanted us to win incidentally) it's the oldest cup competition in the world.

Besides, winners don't pick and choose what they win, that's why they are winners.

Can't imagjne Liverpool went out against Barca thinking it didn't matter because they still have a chance of the league. Nor will Man City dismiss the FA Cup if they win the league.

For a club that has had more than it's share of barren years, we should have an unsatiable thirst for glory, success and victory in [ievery game[/i

Cardiff was brilliant,and very popular with fans.
Lots of places to eat and drink minutes from stadium and not rip off London prices.
And the stadium is the right size to be full with a smaller crowd.
And would not be a national embarrassment when televised

Magic of the cup, anyone?

Alan Agartastic