Could say that about most of the team to be honest.

Just my opinion but I think he's looked threatening all season and has earned an improved offer of 2/3 years.

But he only looks quality when playing on match day. He obviously isn't training well. And that's what's important. He needs to train well all week irrespective of how good he is on the field at game time. Do you not listen to the post-match coach interviews?

I don't to be honest so I'm assuming that's what his problem is? Having said that, Westwood has openly admitted to 'playing like Tarzan, training like Jane'?

Having said that, don't we always train well through the week?? Sure I've heard that before somewhere?

Its a bit different for seasoned vetrans who are usually carrying some long-term ailment. You'd expect the young 'uns to be keen and raring to go in training too

True, and Westwood has earned some leniency in that respect...

He should be eager to get stuck into training but on field is where it counts, surely? As opposed to the rest of the team this season who 'train well all week' but then dish out some shockers at the weekend'!!!

Well, I was being ironic actually. I want Savelio to stay as he's got so much potential but it seems Smith and Agar are the wrong people to realise that potential.

He'll be back at Saints under Holbrook. On the positive side we could get another second rower and have him play in the centres or on the wing.

Where has this Savelio love in come from all of a sudden?

He's been bang average all year. He can't defend for his life and has no way done enough to earn more than a 12 month deal.

22 years old and shipped on twice already. Should be enough to tell you he's a bit of a twit.

Whatever you think about Smith and Agar don't let it cloud reality.

I think it's because many can see his potential and to be fair, that's never really been the issue. Many just would never see smith and co being able to unleash that potential and Andre has struggled to get in team at times when others are being seen to do no wrong.

Suppose it the coaches dilemma:

"I've got a first team player that's struggling with form, but they try hard in training. Should I drop him for a guy that doesn't seem that bothered in training, yet his agent keeps chirping away in his ear that he should be a regular starter...."

No idea if any of this is actually applicable to any of our current situations.

From my point of view I've always thought Savelio was a talent....yesterday wasn't a one off when it comes to his efforts and enthusiasm in attack at least.

You could say he is a turnstile in defence but then most of the team has been so far this season.

I'd just like to see him given more opportunity as I really think he could become one of the best backrowers in the league. Having said that, if his own head isn't screwed on right then he could be given all the opportunity in the world and still not reach his potential.

I Love Savelio and was made up when we signed in. He does stand out in attack and puts in huge amounts of effort. The whole teams defence is poor so you can't really just say his defence is poor, not great but he's still playing better then most of the team.
I'd love him to stay but with so much interest I really can't see him staying. Savelio, Currie, Clark, Westerman great young players that can make a big difference. These are the types of players we should be keeping hold of long term, just my opinion but that's what I feel.

Jullien has play centre pretty much all his life. Hughes has played second row pretty much all his life.

so why are they being played out of position when they could straight swap?

Difficult to know. Perhaps TS trusts Hughes to do a better job as he is a lot more experienced. Or perhaps he thinks Jullien is doing a better job in the BR than the out of form Hughes.

Either way, with Currie due to return quite soon and the centre spot only a temporary posting, I would imagine Hughes must be concerned about the possibility of dropping to the bench in the near future.

I quite like the Hughes of 'old', solid and dependable. The current version and it's been around longer than can be considered a blip wouldn't look out of place in the South Stand never mind the bench

I assume it's a loss of confidence thing. With Atkins TS normally plays him through his bad patches but I wonder if that will be the case for Hughes ? Ironically he is also our one and only 'never missed a game' this year. I think he has certainly cut out most of the dreadful errors he was making early in the season, but what is left is a mere shadow of himself in 2016.