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| Quote: Barbed Wire "Quote: Barbed Wire "Tell me , what amount of money would you pay to watch another clubs reserve players ?'"
I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.'"
Really? Put yourself in their position: could you imagine if we were in the championship, and Wigan came along and joined up with us, then as we enter a new season our squad is half-full of their reserves/kids. I think if I were them, I'd bemoan our fall from grace, criticise the RFL for allowing such a cock-eyed situation, and say f@ck it, I ain't watching Wigan's reserves play in P&B.
As I see it at the moment, Swinton don't have their own identity; they're just our feeder club. For a team with their history that saddens me deeply.
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.'"
I asked you a simple question , how much would you pay to watch another clubs reserves ?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Ganson's Optician "As a Warrington fan who also goes and watches Leigh quite a lot, I would say it has the opposite effect.'"
As a Leigh fan who no longer attends any matches , this just gives me another reason not to attend in the future
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "I don't see why this is seen as such a disaster. Works well in Aus, players playing Toyota Cup while waiting in the wings of the first team. Keeps players fit, gives them a chance to prove themselves, more interest in the Swinton games getting more people in... everyone's a winner. Swinton should do the same with their lesser members of the squad and lend them to a conference club'"
They get large crowds of fans ? , how much do they pay to watch ?
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "I can see myself going to watch a few Swinton games this year. Why not? But my point is, if your a Swinton fan debating wether or not to go to the game and you hear that Paul wood and Tyrone McCarthy are turning out fot you you'd be more inclined to go.'"
Perhaps I am old fashioned, but I simply wouldn't view the team as 'mine' anymore. I would be unable to identify with them. It would be similar to combining two teams into one new one and asking both sets of fans to support it.
I could put up with say a couple of up and coming DR 's, but 5 is too many for my palate. Add to that first team players using the team to get match fit, and it must feel like your team are being 'used'.
And how is it fair to the likes of Fev, Fax, Barrow who have no DR's ? Is the Championship fair, or relevant anymore ?
I wonder if Wire are trying to finesse a reaction to the current 'system' .
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| Quote: Starbug "As a Leigh fan who no longer attends any matches , this just gives me another reason not to attend in the future'"
How many dual registered players will be in cherry and white at Post Office Road on Sunday? The club is doing great things on the field and behind the scenes, you should try and put whatever grievances behind you. I suspect there is more to it than disillusion though.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Ganson's Optician "How many dual registered players will be in cherry and white at Post Office Road on Sunday? The club is doing great things on the field and behind the scenes, you should try and put whatever grievances behind you. I suspect there is more to it than disillusion though.'"
None , Leigh aren't twinned therefore cannot have any DR players
Great things ?
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| Quote: Starbug "None , Leigh aren't twinned therefore cannot have any DR players
Great things ?
That's wrong, you don't have to be "twinned" to accept dials.
Some interesting views on Swinton's uptake on the link with Wire.
The players named in the squad are bar three I believe season long loan players. In this day and age of players jumping clubs after one season contract, can anyone tell me the differance. As for we have lost our identity, does signing an individual in his own right amount to a clubs identification.
Swinton are simply operating within rules set up by the RFL, I for one am glad that we had the foresight to go with Warrington than say Widnes. The situation is open to all clubs as it is we got in with one of the better ones.
As for the integrity of the Championship.......is that no less than Super League with its closed shop attitude.
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| I'm enjoying being told how I should feel!
Lets face it other than the C1 2011 league win we have had nothing to cheer for years. If, with dual reg players, we get in the playoffs it'll be an amazing season.
I go watching Swinton week in and week out home and away. I have been to Gateshead, South Wales, Cumbria, and London watching the Lions and I am happy with things. If I am happy and every Swinton fan, bar one moaner, is happy then why are you so worried?
Unless you feel like we are getting the better deal? So is it Swinton or Wire you're worried about?
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| I seem to remember bringing this problem up when the dual registration situation arose only to be shot down in flames with the reply " It can't happen " ,but it can't be a good system that would give a player more chances to pick up injuries by playing extra games for another club especially if the pitches are not up to the same standard as superleague .
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| Quote: Barnie "I'm enjoying being told how I should feel!
Lets face it other than the C1 2011 league win we have had nothing to cheer for years. If, with dual reg players, we get in the playoffs it'll be an amazing season.
I go watching Swinton week in and week out home and away. I have been to Gateshead, South Wales, Cumbria, and London watching the Lions and I am happy with things. If I am happy and every Swinton fan, bar one moaner, is happy then why are you so worried?
Unless you feel like we are getting the better deal? So is it Swinton or Wire you're worried about?'"
Well clearly Wire are getting a very good deal because they can bring on their youngsters in a higher level competition ( than the U20's). And they can also keep their 1st team match fit by the same approach. If I understand correctly, the match fees will be paid by Swinton, so again Wire will benefit there as well. The only disadvantage from our side is the loss of the U15 and U20 age groups, where we had spent a lot of time and money in building up.
I would be very surprised however if there is just 'one moaner' from Swinton who dislikes the current set up. All the Wire players that you are getting on DR are contracted to Warrington, and will remain so unless released. If you are happy to field another clubs players for a year, then get a new set the following, fair enough. But I don't see how that progresses your club. If all you wasn't to do is watch better quality players and have a chance of winning silverware, why don't you go the whole hog and watch Wire.
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| Another advantage for Swinton and rugby league is that Warry fans may travel over to Swinton for the odd game. I certainly will.
Swinton, brothers in arms. Its the future, get used to it !
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| Quote: Winslade's Offload "
If you are happy to field another clubs players for a year, then get a new set the following, fair enough.'"
In the lower leagues clubs cannot really afford to build squads. If a player stays for more than 2 years he is a long serving club man. There are obvious exceptions. But as a rule it a merry go round of players. The only difference is now that these players are contracted to another club and if injured they wont cost us a penny.
If a club unearths a promising young player they are cherry picked by SL clubs. Hill from Leigh and Walmsley from Batley to name two. Its not like we can keep hold of them, as after all whats the best we can offer them? Promotion to the SL isn't going to happen.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Marshy1 "That's wrong, you don't have to be "twinned" to accept dials.
Some interesting views on Swinton's uptake on the link with Wire.
The players named in the squad are bar three I believe season long loan players. In this day and age of players jumping clubs after one season contract, can anyone tell me the differance. As for we have lost our identity, does signing an individual in his own right amount to a clubs identification.
Swinton are simply operating within rules set up by the RFL, I for one am glad that we had the foresight to go with Warrington than say Widnes. The situation is open to all clubs as it is we got in with one of the better ones.
As for the integrity of the Championship.......is that no less than Super League with its closed shop attitude.'"
Yes you do
Dual registration is only available to Twinned clubs , Loan deals are available to all clubs
Marshy , it isnt Swinton I am particularily unhappy with , they are unique among clubs in that John kidd has to keep them alive as a club without a home until he can get you back to Swinton , I have met John and have the utmost respect for what he is trying to achieve , and can understand that he does need to use whatever it takes
Ultimatley this expansion of the DR system does have the potential to finish off the Championships as a credible competition , and once the SL clubs get what they want n, they wont give it back
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