What a suprise that it's the Wigan fans who are "mocking" Mathers, it's time to change the record, whilst we have a Saint know-it-all who has just exposed his knowledge, or to be correct his lack of knowledge, of the the NRL to us.



I agree with Rob that the inclusion of Widdop in the squad is an absolute joke. Two first grade games all season in the NRL and we wonder why the Aussies give international rugby league any respect. Whether Mathers should be picked or not I'm not sure. I can't think of a full-back in Super League qualified for England who is currently playing better. However given a choice I'd have played Eastmond there but now he's injured I think Leon Pryce may be the best option.



I again agree with Rob that Mathers was outstanding against Bradford and played a major role in getting us through.

I think the 'from what I've read', bit excludes me from that, as I clearly wasn't claiming any knowledge of it.







How do you know he's not been known about my McNamara for a while? He is a very lively player, certainly already a better bet than what we have available. He 'could' be outstanding for all we know. Why not pick him?

so why do you consider yourself qualified to make the statement:







Do you really consider somebody who has played 2 first grade games a better option than a player who has been a regular, putting in a number of good performances, in a team running second in Super League and as good as in the Challenge Cup final which the same player scored the opening try in last season's final on the way to lifting the trophy?







How do you know he "is a very lively player"? You have never ever seen him.



If, as some people seem to be putting about, England wanted to make sure he remained available for England rather than Australia then I suggest they should have picked Rhys Evans, after-all he's only 2 first team games behind Widdop.



Quick put Sky Sports 4 on now as the NRL review is on, you can see Widdop playing full-back; according to yourself that is. I bet he looks like a Billy Slater clone to the casual viewer.

That was my main point, out of all the english qualified full backs i can`t think of anyone thats in better form than Richie Mathers.



Ok he isn`t Billy Slater and never will be, its about picking an England team based on form and he`s the in form english full back.



I`m not sure why people brought up Pat Richards on an England squad based thread as we all know he`s irish through and through, anyway he`d never consider playing for another country outisde of the one that he grew up in across the oirish sea.

to be fair give widdop a chance i know it a brave decision to play him after only two games but from what other people to be sayin he the real deal even thou they have only at under 20 level. if he puts in a MOM performance against france i bet ya you will change your tune then

As much as i like Mathers, the answer to Englands on going full back search is long-term, therefore why not give Widdop a chance the lad is only 21.



He can't be that bad to play under Bellamy and Storm.



I think the inclusion of Widdop is a good decision by McNamara and could prove alot of people wrong.

Seen him many times doing cracking try saving tackles, usually one on one.

Totally unfair - surely you're not questioning Mathers' motivation at any stage since he joined the club? That he's been able to turn a negative into a positive is all credit to him.

This is probably a bit of a trial for him before he signs for Bradford next year!

Absolutely agree. I think he has been a very good signing for us and not just the last few weeks. He made a few mistakes, but nobody makes more than the likes of Hodgson tbh.



As for Saddened, your contribution here is pathetic. Mathers has played more NRL games than Widdop.

What's that got to do with McNamara?

Or Martin Gleeson trying bo tackle Lee Smith last weekend just before Smith scored? That was laughable too! Gleeson never seems to have any trouble getting picked for england or GB though!