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New stadium will just be the Willows renamed with a new coat of paint.

New stadium will never happen.

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Bridge shouldn't miss that goal.

That's what seperates decent players from champion players. Bit of pressure on Bridge, shanks it. Immense pressure on Sinfield, never in doubt.

When Cooper scored I thought "We can't lose now2, I was well aware of the draw, 60 secs later, I knew that would be costly.

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Quote: Wembley2009 "As much as I like Mathers and think he had been a Godsend and we deffo got a bargain with that deal. A Wigan fan who I used to work with said to me when we signed him...

"He's a good player, but i'll warn you now, he will lose you games"

I can think of two of the top of my head where brain farts have led to tries in very close games. Think he's an awesome player, but that phrase always sticks with me.'"

Always did it for Leeds, but he'll win you more than he loses. He's capable of playing absolutely faultless games when his confidence is high.

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Would just like to say what a great game it was despite the loss.

Too many penalties in the first half but if we play like that and have 17 players (not 15) we will win a lot more games than we lose

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Quote: Wembley2009 "As much as I like Mathers and think he had been a Godsend and we deffo got a bargain with that deal. A Wigan fan who I used to work with said to me when we signed him...

"He's a good player, but i'll warn you now, he will lose you games"

I can think of two of the top of my head where brain farts have led to tries in very close games. Think he's an awesome player, but that phrase always sticks with me.'"


Did he also tell you they gave him no support whatsoever and moan everytime he got the ball to the point that the lad had zero confidence left?

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Quote: Wire_85 "Did he also tell you they gave him no support whatsoever and moan everytime he got the ball to the point that the lad had zero confidence left?'"

That's it exactly. The fans and Brian Noble were the reasons Mathers was poor at Wigan. Nobody else.

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Quote: JWP "Bridge shouldn't miss that goal.

That's what seperates decent players from champion players. Bit of pressure on Bridge, shanks it. Immense pressure on Sinfield, never in doubt.

When Cooper scored I thought "We can't lose now2, I was well aware of the draw, 60 secs later, I knew that would be costly.'"


No pressure on Sinfield at all - had he missed Leeds get a draw, sadly he kicks it !!

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I would think most of the rugby league family is hoping for a Wigan win.

We've had enough half full stadiums watching Saints beat A.N.Other, the game cannot afford another one of those. What would be better for rugby league on its biggest occasion of the year - the biggest derby in the game, or the most one sided derby in the game..?

Obviously Wire fans will be hoping for Wire v Huddersfield, but if we look at the bigger picture, a Warrington win will just play into the hands of rugby union.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "We've had enough half full stadiums watching Saints beat A.N.Other, the game cannot afford another one of those. What would be better for rugby league on its biggest occasion of the year - the biggest derby in the game, or the most one sided derby in the game..'"

Then you should want a Saints -v- Wire final because until this season (when we have had inconsistent form) we had been regularly tonking Wigan for at least two years whereas the Wire matches have invariably been close, last minute affairs that could go either way.

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Quote: JWP "Bridge shouldn't miss that goal.

That's what seperates decent players from champion players. Bit of pressure on Bridge, shanks it. Immense pressure on Sinfield, never in doubt.'"


I agree but people can`t blame Bridge for us losing the game or not at least getting a draw which they have hinted at previously on this thread, he was made a kicker by circumstances and not by desire. Sinfield is a specialist kicker, Chris Bridge isn`t.

The biggest reason for our loss last night was the indiviudual errors from Bridge when he dropped a simple pass, Johnson for his poor attempt to tackle Lee Smith, Richie Mathers with his howler that lead to the first try and Gareth Carvell losing the ball at the end was unforgivable given the time left on the clock where all we had to do was 5 drives and a kick to more than likely win the game.

All those individual errors above lead to Leeds tries.

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Quote: JWP "That's what seperates decent players from champion players. Bit of pressure on Bridge, shanks it. Immense pressure on Sinfield, never in doubt.

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It's true. Remember the 2003 cc semi, sinfield always seems to get the hardest kicks under the most pressure.

As a neutral I can't wait for next week, it's going to be a hum dinger.

However still having a soft spot for smith i hope you guys get through.

I've thought for sometime you're gonna end the saints hoodoo in a big game.

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If we get to Wembley i think our expansive rugby will be a match for any team and the ideal time to bring Kevin Penny back into the squad all that open space will be great for Penny

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Quote: Wire_Yed_79 "If we get to Wembley i think our expansive rugby will be a match for any team and the ideal time to bring Kevin Penny back into the squad all that open space will be great for Penny'"


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Quote: WireDOA'88 "What's not to get?

We had a penalty underneath the posts, 2 minutes before half time and decided to tap rather than going for the 2.

To me, THAT and a few other decisions were the reasons why we lost and not the last minute try and conversion by Leeds.'"
Two mintues to go to half time in front of the sticks it was a gift, couldn't believe a team away from home didn't take it.

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Quote: Rob Wire "I agree but people can`t blame Bridge for us losing the game or not at least getting a draw which they have hinted at previously on this thread, he was made a kicker by circumstances and not by desire. Sinfield is a specialist kicker, Chris Bridge isn`t.

The biggest reason for our loss last night was the indiviudual errors from Bridge when he dropped a simple pass, Johnson for his poor attempt to tackle Lee Smith, Richie Mathers with his howler that lead to the first try and Gareth Carvell losing the ball at the end was unforgivable given the time left on the clock where all we had to do was 5 drives and a kick to more than likely win the game.

All those individual errors above lead to Leeds tries.'"


Absolutely spot on - add in the Anderson's colliding when trying to stop Donald making an extra 50 meters and you have the reasons we lost........and of course the video ref believing that Diskin deserved a penalty for running at jon Clarke instead of the man diving over the line with the ball 5 metres away.

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