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Quote: easyWire "And thankfully Burgess has been harping on about how impressed he is with Leon Hayes in training. I get the feeling a Price / A.N Other Aussie type coach would have Drinkwater as first option every day of the week.'"


Good to hear his comments about Conor Wrench playing centre too.

Hopefully he will give Wrench a decent chance to secure that position, it depends I suppose if Tai settles in Warrington, or whether the lure of the NRL is too great.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "Drinkwater

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2013 St. George Illawarra
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We are Drinkwater's eighth club. He is the classic journeyman professional and I don't believe you will ever see the level of commitment that you would get from most other players, particularly the home grown like Thewlis. We are stuck with him for another year and I guess SB is just trying to make the best from a less than optimum situation.'"


Drinkwater often looked impressive for Catalans and Hull KR though, to be fair, and the reaction on here was largely positive when we signed him. I hoped that he was going to finally provide us with an excellent attacking kick option. Instead, he just became Mr Anonymous for most of 2023, unfortunately.

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Quote: Wires71 "Re Worries
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This, we need the right player as captain and acting as a captain on the field, backed up by two or three others who make sure nobody presses a panic button.

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Oh hell is Drinkwater going to become the next Mata'utia on the forum? BTW I'd love it if Hayes stepped up and played every game.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Oh hell is Drinkwater going to become the next Mata'utia on the forum? BTW I'd love it if Hayes stepped up and played every game.'"


I'd rather have Wrench at centre than Mata'utia and Ratchford.

Drinkwater's best attribute has always been his kicking game, which has been awful for too long in the P&B. Players should earn the shirt, Smiffy, but there's been too many poor performance by too many players over a number of years. If SB promotes a system of meritocracy, then we'll have laid the first stone of a good foundation for the future.

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Totally agree. Let the young guns prove their worth at training and on the pitch & step up & we'll all be happy.
But let us show respect to our older lads too. Seems fair doesn't it.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Totally agree. Let the young guns prove their worth at training and on the pitch & step up & we'll all be happy.
But let us show respect to our older lads too. Seems fair doesn't it.'"


Yes, but only if they walk the walk and set the standard and an example to our younger squad members and our academy.

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Nice to see a new pair of eyes looking at the situation. It should be seen as an opportunity for all to show their worth.
It makes the early season selections great fun.

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There was the perceived (rightly or wrongly) correlation of Drinkwater's decline in form/attitude around the time of McGuiregate. I think when we were 8/8 no-one was complaining. Then we got a taste of reality from Saints and Wigan and it all went downhill.

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Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "backed up by two or three others who make sure nobody presses a panic button.'"


The leadership group for 2023 was ...

George Williams,
Josh McGuire
Stefan Ratchford
Peter Mata’utia

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Quote: Wires71 "The leadership group for 2023 was ...

George Williams,
Josh McGuire
Stefan Ratchford
Peter Mata’utia'"


And thereby hangs a tale

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Quote: Uncle Rico "And thereby hangs a tale'"

Doesn't it just

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I still don’t understand how Maguire was seen as a leader and Vaughan wasn’t. I was surprised at the time and gobsmacked as the season progressed!

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I do remember a poster on here arguing that Maguire ought to be made Captain prior to his first game. He was just what we needed!!!

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Quote: Captain Hook "I still don’t understand how Maguire was seen as a leader and Vaughan wasn’t. I was surprised at the time and gobsmacked as the season progressed!'"

He might not want to be captain or part of the leadership team. He might just want to crack on doing his job, although like Morley, sometimes a captains actions speak louder than words.
I'm not sure who should be captain but Williams or Vaughan wouldn't be a bad choice at all. I think Williams would suit it well icon_smile.gif

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