Exactly. St Helens acted decisively and now have a sporting chance of the Top 4. Our problems were just as evident as those of our neighbours, but inaction has seen us into a battle for survival.

Despite the talk of searches for a replacement getting under way in Oz, I feel that the options tabled were probably for an upcoming Aussie coach to work under Smith. And to be fair as an upcoming Aussie coach like Furner, I would want control of the reigns not to play second fiddle to somebody. My guess is they said no thanks.

I predict we'll be stuck with the current regime for the foreseeable future. I can't see the board sacking Smith, so we'll likely see a new number 2 brought in at some point in the future but nothing will really change. We need a fresh start and a clean sheet for the players.

6th-8th place for us next year and mediocrity resumed a la 2015. However the club will still be in profit so the sporting achievements side of things will take second stage for the next few years.

Anything is possible, but the post match interview with TS after the Wigan away win said to me he was out. That would tie in with Agar looking for another job.
Why would SM tie his hands and restrict his choice of new coaches by insisting TS remained, particularly after TS has been seen to fail in maintaining the club in the top 4.

Is there any actual proof of TS handing in his resignation or is it just rumor on here. Only ask because i didnt pick anything up at the meeting last night that he would be gone when recruitment was talked about. I mean would a guy be involved in recruitment if was not going to be there, strange if that was the case.

Again hypothetically, Smith would still have a passion for the club, but sees he needs to move on to get the team going again next year, SJM wants a smooth transition but still trust Smith's input.

How you lot can blame Agar for your sides comical season is equally comical! Not one of you lot slaughtered him when the gormless giggler was laughing his way all the way to Old Trafford. Easy to pick fault when the going gets tough. Anyway, see you all on Friday on the Axminster!

Well you are certainly wrong about that.
I've at least has been calling for his head for 3 seasons.

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I've heard players praise him, but he was never liked by majority of fans.

Which ones?

He may be the best assistant coach in the world and the fans have it all wrong. Fact remains we are in the middle 8's and should not be.

Can't find the original article but apparently Lineham praised Agar for helping him with his jumping into the corner.

Smith doesn't seem to be the one holding training sessions anymore so he has to praise someone I suppose..

Maybe Agar's position will be one that is "refreshed for 2018" as Broomhead says. Together with a cull of those players we all recognise as not good enough.

I'm quite hopeful for 2018 as it surely must be an improvement on this season*

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I still wonder if Agar has been brought in as a foil to cover the ineptitude of Smith, but for all we know the problem may lie with the dressing room & not the management

Could it be argued that a problem in the dressing room left unaddressed to the extent that it destroys a season, is a problem with the management?