thaler did a lot of damage in last nights game..everyone watching the game on the telly could see tierneys hand was on the touchline before he put the ball down..but thaler (who should be dropped from reffing for good) saw otherwise..this video ref systenm most of the time is a joke..that changed the game completley and the fans were stunned by that diabolical decision..when a player does anything wrong they go up before the panel ..thaler should be demoted to hot dog seller..and thats from a saints fan!

Hull should have had top spot secured long ago. 2 losses against leeds, a defeat by huddersfield and 3 losses so far in the super 8's. Against the top 5 our record has been exceptional this year and we've been far and away the best team. Someone posted on our board that prior to the super 8's we'd won 14 of 15 games against the other top 5 teams, with the one defeat being to a late drop goal against wigan

The other concerning thing is that we've probably spent more than any other side each season over the past 10 years. A few posters have mentioned putting the cue on the rack and I agree. We seem to find an excuse to let sides back in the game and Ben Currie's injury last night seem to trigger a lack of focus when really we should be closing the game out. Up until this point we looked the better side and I felt confident (bar doing a 'Warrington) that we'd win.

Gidley should have managed the last 20 with boring rugby league. 5 tackles kick to touch instead of manic we need another try mentality.

The worst ever day in your history was the 80-0 backside kicking from saints

If you had just played basic rugby when 14 points and a man up, e.g. a field position orientated game kicking to touch and slowing the game down, the game would have petered out and you would have won comfortably. That's it, that's all you had to do. Same in the CC final. You do the hard part, playing the fancy stuff getting into a winning position but then can't do the basic part.

If you knew how to play basic rugby you'd be on the verge of a treble, but instead you'll probably be runners up in all 3 competitions.

Flex is correct. This is where gidley should be stamping his authority but he isn't doing it. Sandow is better at game management when he plays. He'd have drilled a few boring kicks to touch to ensure victory.

we have 1 prop forward...1...and we wonder why we can't hold on against big oppo...even with 12 men.

As I said when you signed him, Gidley is best at hooker, followed by fullback. Considering this, is it really that surprising he doesn't have the game management of a true halfback?

just like he did against Hull in the cup final

Is it time to get the players in a position that reflects their shirt nos?
Exception being Penny in over a dropped Russell.

Arh yes! we know neither of these new ideas will happen. Scrub this nonsense I speak.

Penny needs to b we back in the side but I'd drop rhys not Russell. Russell was far more involved on Friday than rhys was.

The player who should be dropped is Ratchford he was absolutely awful the other night.