I like Wigan people, salt of the earth most of them along with our other rugby league communities, but Wane carries the big gob northerner mantle way too much, and Im saying this as a lad who grew up in Wigan and have a fair sized gob myself.

If you don't like it don't come on here and read em. Simple really. You've been our top of the table rivals two seasons in a row and there are only two other teams as well as us two left playing the sport this season. Plus this Wane-Maguire balls is in the media and is news. There's good reason for plenty of talk about the Pies.

Do you want us to start threads about Swinton just to talk about something else?

The irnonic thing about you kid, is that you must be obsessed enough with us Wires to be on our forum seeing what we're taking about all the time. Then you have the cheek to comment...sling it fella!

Well said. Wane delivered the business by winning the league and so if he wants to be a bit outspoken so what.

Some RL fans are right whinging mards, if a coach wants to raise the stakes by what they have said then good for the game IMO, look at guys like Jose Mourinho or Roberto Mancini in football, they aren't afraid to be a bit controversial and shake things up, it makes things more interesting.

Most RL coaches are boring do gooders, they get asked what do you think about the upcoming match, they say "ah yes [insert name of opposition] are a really talented team [even if they are rubbish], if you take them lightly they will punish you blah blah" then the article gets written up on a news website under the headline "oring coach] wary of [opposition team] threat". YAWN.

In any case Wane has managed to rub his own fans up the wrong way at some points this season, there are posts on the Wigan forum from their fans complaining about what he says.

I would like coaches to be more controversial, if they think the RFL is bent and the referees are rubbish come out and say it, then instead of getting all high and mighty and fining them, the RFL or referees could just use their right to reply, say the coach is talking rubbish and he should focus on winning matches rather than criticising the refs. I would like this kind of aggressive banter and it would make RL much more interesting.

I've been critical of Wane this season opening his mouth but he simply asked for consistency from the panel. Contact with the head is supposed to be a sending off nowadays and is supposed to carry a ban. Rightly or wrongly he was reminding the panel of this.

Leeds have done their share of bitching as well. Shame really. It's taking the gloss away from what should be a cracking game.

I think shouting your mouth off in RL tends to fire up the opposition, why give a team extra motivation and put unneeded pressure on your own team.

Lowes was an idiot too, regardless of what he may have brought i used to hate seeing his interviews.
He was like some grinning chav who had just won the lottery.

But if Finch makes the same mistake as McGuire tomorrow will he want consistency from the RFL and remind the panel, or will he be consistent himself and repeat his post Catalan display and try to defend his own player no matter how bad it looked?

What do you think? He has done no different to what any other coach would do. Brian Mac was on SSN at the club call saying how nice a guy McGuire was. Why do you think that was?

oh dear me, lack of insight at it's best!

my favorite was --

to wane- "who's going to win the warrington wigan match?"
wane- "if our forwards perform on the day, blah blah blah...we can win it"

to smith- "who's going to win the warrington wigan match?"

smith- "only a fool would predict a match before it's played"

So because he refused to comment on a game he isn't outspoken? How about his comments this week about the playoffs? How about his comments last year about Joel Monaghan and abuse from fans?

Blind panic on the Wigan as Sam might be injured, anyone would think they are a one man team.

You mean the comments about the play-offs, that just about everyone apart from Nigel Wood agree with? Smith won't make a negative or disparaging comment about an individual opposition player, Wane would and did.

I can’t believe it we are now going on about what can and shouldn’t be whinged about. Do you really think anybody listens to what SW says or think he has any verbal clout with any one, especially the RFL? They’re all a big turn-off, Smithy (the um-ah man) makes my ears bleed.

probably umming an ahhing because he's thinking before he speaks?