thats a shame Karate is supposed to teach you discipline, respect, and courtesy......

and there you are sat on your backside showing absolutely none......I'd have been embarrassed for you....

I was sat near the guys with the drum in the left hand stand away from the main wire supporters and they were shocking. I missed the national anthem as one of our party had to get her ticket from the cabin but it wouldnt surpise me if they were the same group chanting over the national anthem. Im a southstander and stand just to the right of the Barmy Army at the HJ and didnt recognise any faces.

How many times they sang "The Famous Wigan Rugby..." song i lost count but showed their level of intelligence i guess. They weren't kids either, some in that group were well past 40. As a group who regularly attend games with 4 kids under the age of 12 you expect the odd expletive as its in peoples nature when aggrieved but these guys were shocking.

How can you not stand when asked? It just shows how disrespectful some people are. Its clear that Crusaders are doing a great job marketing the club as a Welsh team in an area of Wales more patriotically inclined, both in Language and Nature, than any other. As I say I missed the anthem but i would have stood without question.

Could we say the same about minute silences? I don't see what the harm is in showing respect for another country.

Pedantic note for those who have waffled on about the Welsh and English national anthems:

They don't exist. The British national anthem covers both nations.

However, unlike the English, the Welsh choose a patriotic song celebrating their country to represent them at sporting events rather than an ode to a unelected figurehead.

Cru-cru-crusaders is the best chant in Super League.

Quote: Dropkick Murphy " However, unlike the English, the Welsh choose a patriotic song celebrating their country to represent them at sporting events rather than an ode to a unelected figurehead.'" I hope, like me, you support the aims and ambitions of www.republic.org.uk ?

Quote: Dropkick Murphy " However, unlike the English, the Welsh choose a patriotic song celebrating their country to represent them at sporting events rather than an ode to a unelected figurehead.'" I hope, like me, you support the aims and ambitions of www.republic.org.uk ?

I thought Wales did not have an official national language adopted in Law but instead through tradition. Similar to Scotland in that respect. I believe there is only one official National anthem in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and that is the sorry dirge which pleads an imaginary deity to preserve the unfair rights of the monarchy.

When is official official? rlhttp://www.know-britain.com/songs/welsh_national_anthem.htmlrl

This rlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/music/sites/anthem/pages/anthem-background.shtmlrl is a bit more authoritative.

The home page on this is just for Mistah Lee.

Look Lee!

i think it is a bit over the top how many of the players are welsh and how many no the words

Spot on. I can't bring myself to sing that 'sorry dirge' no matter how patriotic I mey be feeling.

I'm English but also British. And let's make a few things clear. 1/ Wales vs Northern Ireland WCQ. The Welsh crowd booed throughout the whole of God save the Queen at the Millenium stadium. 2/ Let's see how much respect the Welsh give to God Save the Queen when England visit the Millenium Stadium again in the near future, for the Euro 2012 Qualifiers. 3/ God Save the Queen is the BRITISH national anthem, and the rest of the Home Nations 'songs' Are just that......

Ps I've stopped appeasing the Welsh and Scots a while ago, and I suggest they get their own house in order before any of the English start saying sorry, for something these 'Celtic' countries obviously started!!!!