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Quote: Rugbychick™ "I really think we should be pushing for the top 8.

The attitude that now we've won the cup so the league isn't important really irritates me. We should be of the opinion that now we've won the cup we certainly capable of going on a great playoff run. We shouldn't be settling for one or the other, we don't have to sacrifice the league to compete in (and win) the cup. Truly sucessful teams do both.

I feel confident, as someone said above, that if we can make the 8 we'll have a really good bash at it and do well. We've shown we can handle the pressure and compete in these winner-takes-all games.'"


See my reply to Wire71 last week.

It isn't about the league not being important, it's about a sense of perspective. Of course I'd love to see us win every game until mid-October and win at OT, but to expect this team, now, to reproduce the same sort of form as Saturday's on such a short turnaround is nothing short of ridiculous.

Even the very best sides have underperformed in the week(s) after Wembley, so how can our work-in-progress side go and do it?

We'll try, but we won't get there. Hull KR are a great side with a proud home record and an excellent coach. They'll have had two weeks to prepare. They'll beat us.

We will almost certainly walk all over Quins at the HJ, but it wont be enough. We must and will play with pride in the shirt until our SL season is over, and prepare with new optimism for 2010 with the knowledge that we can win trophies and perform on the big stage.

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Quote: just_browny "See my reply to Wire71 last week.

It isn't about the league not being important, it's about a sense of perspective. Of course I'd love to see us win every game until mid-October and win at OT, but to expect this team, now, to reproduce the same sort of form as Saturday's on such a short turnaround is nothing short of ridiculous.

Even the very best sides have underperformed in the week(s) after Wembley, so how can our work-in-progress side go and do it?

We'll try, but we won't get there. Hull KR are a great side with a proud home record and an excellent coach. They'll have had two weeks to prepare. They'll beat us.

We will almost certainly walk all over Quins at the HJ, but it wont be enough. We must and will play with pride in the shirt until our SL season is over, and prepare with new optimism for 2010 with the knowledge that we can win trophies and perform on the big stage.'"


i agree not only do we have to go to KR who have a great home record we need other teams to do us a favour. even if all those things happen we also have 3 away games and a GF to play so we only have to win the next 6 games in a row with only one being at the HJ. Do i want it to happen yes, will it happen no.

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Quote: just_browny "See my reply to Wire71 last week.

It isn't about the league not being important, it's about a sense of perspective. Of course I'd love to see us win every game until mid-October and win at OT, but to expect this team, now, to reproduce the same sort of form as Saturday's on such a short turnaround is nothing short of ridiculous.

Even the very best sides have underperformed in the week(s) after Wembley, so how can our work-in-progress side go and do it?

We'll try, but we won't get there. Hull KR are a great side with a proud home record and an excellent coach. They'll have had two weeks to prepare. They'll beat us.

We will almost certainly walk all over Quins at the HJ, but it wont be enough. We must and will play with pride in the shirt until our SL season is over, and prepare with new optimism for 2010 with the knowledge that we can win trophies and perform on the big stage.'"


Historically, you are correct. However, I am hoping TS can instill new found levels of confidence post-Saturday to put the Cup Final on repeat for the next two weeks. Is it stretching the realms of possibility; probably yes.

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i don't really care whether or not we are in the playoffs. at least one win from the next two games will make me satisfied. the team have come a long way this season and let tony have pre-season with them, they will create havoc next season im sure. i have a stragest feeling wire will not want to let the challenge cup go...

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Quote: just_browny "It isn't about the league not being important, it's about a sense of perspective. Of course I'd love to see us win every game until mid-October and win at OT, but to expect this team, now, to reproduce the same sort of form as Saturday's on such a short turnaround is nothing short of ridiculous.

Even the very best sides have underperformed in the week(s) after Wembley, so how can our work-in-progress side go and do it?

We'll try, but we won't get there. Hull KR are a great side with a proud home record and an excellent coach. They'll have had two weeks to prepare. They'll beat us.

We will almost certainly walk all over Quins at the HJ, but it wont be enough. We must and will play with pride in the shirt until our SL season is over, and prepare with new optimism for 2010 with the knowledge that we can win trophies and perform on the big stage.'"


You've kinda missed my point. I do agree with most of what you have said. I don't "expect" us to win the last two games, make the play-offs and run all the way to the final. My point was we should be trying for it. We've complained for years that Wire are mediocre, settle for just good enough instead of striving for the best. Now we've got the opportunity to do that and people are moaning that we should be forgetting about the play-offs. My point wasn't that I think we should be making the GF, my point was I think we should be trying to and proving to ourselves most importantly, but the rest of the league too, that the CC wasn't just a one-off. The Wire are are going to be successful and my word they had better watch out for us next season!

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It is essential we finish in the top eight. No excuses.

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Quote: Rugbychick™ "You've kinda missed my point. I do agree with most of what you have said. I don't "expect" us to win the last two games, make the play-offs and run all the way to the final. My point was we should be trying for it. We've complained for years that Wire are mediocre, settle for just good enough instead of striving for the best. Now we've got the opportunity to do that and people are moaning that we should be forgetting about the play-offs. My point wasn't that I think we should be making the GF, my point was I think we should be trying to and proving to ourselves most importantly, but the rest of the league too, that the CC wasn't just a one-off. The Wire are are going to be successful and my word they had better watch out for us next season!'"


I agree totally, I haven't seen anyone saying we shouldn't try.

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Quote: just_browny "I agree totally, I haven't seen anyone saying we shouldn't try.'"


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Quote: just_browny "I don't think anyone really cares.'"


Quote: just_browny "Nil chance. Season's over, and it's been a good'un. We can have a pop at SL next season.'"


Quote: just_browny "do us the world of good missing the playoffs this year and getting some rest, & more importantly a full pre-season with TS'"


Quote: just_browny "The playoffs would be a waste of time and money.'"


Quote: just_browny "Is it wrong of me to say then that i dont care about the league at the moment .......'"


Quote: just_browny "dont care about the next 2 weeks, just wanna see that cup with primrose & blue ribbons on it being carried round Wembley come 1615 on Sat 29th August.

we can win the league next season'"


I can't be bothered scrolling back through any more threads.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Historically, you are correct. However, I am hoping TS can instill new found levels of confidence post-Saturday to put the Cup Final on repeat for the next two weeks. Is it stretching the realms of possibility; probably yes.'"


I'm with you on this one. I was heartened to read Richie Mathers tweet yesterday which said he was doing extra training after having an early night on the homecoming, so he was ready for training today. That is exactly the sort of attitude we need.

We should aim to win every game we play and whilst there is a chance of making the playoffs we should have that as our goal. I think TS will be of the same mindset.

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Quote: Rugbychick™ "......













I can't be bothered scrolling back through any more threads.'"


I still can't see anyone saying we shouldn't try, and that's certainly not what I said.

It's just not the end of the world if we don't get there.

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Quote: Wires71 "I'm with you on this one. I was heartened to read Richie Mathers tweet yesterday which said he was doing extra training after having an early night on the homecoming, so he was ready for training today. That is exactly the sort of attitude we need.

We should aim to win every game we play and whilst there is a chance of making the playoffs we should have that as our goal. I think TS will be of the same mindset.'"


Yes, me too. The physical drain exerted by a game like Saturday's must not be underestimated, however, and although the players are still running on adrenaline from winning there, there's a good chance it'll hit them hard sometime this week.

Hope I'm wrong.

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people are forgetting that KR will also be fired up. They have the CC champs at their ground which will motivate them. It will be a very tough match

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Quote: Wire_Yed "people are forgetting that KR will also be fired up. They have the CC champs at their ground which will motivate them. It will be a very tough match'"



Sure will, but it is winnable without doubt.

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We wont beat KR and we wont make the play-offs..... If we somehow manage to scape it into 8th then we wont go much further.
The League was forgotten about a long time ago unfortunately but if we hit the ground running next year then there's no reason why we cant compete for both trophy's.

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