I'm still laughing at the delusion on redvee. They (mostly) refuse to give us any credit and a lot of them are willing to blame Wellens' setup, and naming and shaming individual players. They were world beaters on Good Friday but two weeks later they apparently need a full clear out before it becomes the second coming of the cunningham era. The knee jerk reaction is like that of a spoiled child that hasn't got what it usually expects. That crowd* was awful for a big cup game, zero reaction or motivation came from their supporters, so I can agree with the ones who note there's a growing disconnect between the players and the fans.

Back to us, overall I said I'd have been happy with us just giving them a good game, but the truth is we nullified everything they had in their nal. Actually in the Challenge Cup thread I did say we'd batter them! It will be very interested to see how we go about Saturday now, surely big Sam has got it drummed into them not to get cocky or complacent. Just really pleased with all the green shoots at the moment, but agree with others that we ought not to get too carried away.

*My rewatch was even more enjoyable hearing them cheer every tackle around the 45th minute, as if it was the 75th minute and they'd caned us defensively all through the half. Frightening arrogance that came back to well and truly bite them.

Im still trying to forget it!!

I saw it at the time and was amazed none of the commentators did - surely its worthy of a review?

They were too busy commenting on Welsby's dummy that he spat out at Fitzgibbon, after being trapped in goal.

It's interesting to read who is copping it hardest in the Saints fans' blame game. Wellens is under increasing fire for their boring style of play, whilst both Makinson and Lomax are now regarded as past-it and ready for the scrapheap by several of the more rabid observers. Most of the vitriol, though, seems to be aimed at their fresh-faced and butter-fingered left winger - the esteemed Romantic poet and peer of the realm Alfred, Lord Bennison - who must henceforth carry the shame and ignominy of being rated as worse than Tee Ritson.

Can't get on redvee for some reason..was wondering as it been taken down cos they've been walloped again

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Did the incident on the Saints pre season training camp involving Clark ever become public knowledge ?

Do you know something?

I recall hearing that Clark had a major bust-up with Hurrell, when Clark made a joke about religion that deeply offended Hurrell.

Yes his one eye is right in the centre of his head.

Close. They had fisticuffs after DC offended him over a comment about his gender preferences knowing his religion based views on homosexuality.

I can't believe 'big Konnie' got upset and violent. He always plays with a smile on his face.

Well you can take the man out of Castleford and all that….and then if you plonk him in St Helens (where he’s been living for a while) and you’ll get someone a lot more adept at bigotry than dummy half breaks.