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Quote: rubber duckie "Clark was showing wear and a downward trajectory, missing games for the daftest of twinges, Dwyer seemingly hasn’t.

I’d rather have a 70%er 100% of the time, than a 100%er 70% of the time.'"


I worry that a revitalised Clark is going to be devastating for Saints.

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Quote: Wires71 "I worry that a revitalised Clark is going to be devastating for Saints.'"


I think that you are right to worry and that he will plug their post Roby gap at the top level for the next couple of years.

However I'd balance that with the comfort that we've had his best years and if we'd have kept him he more than likely not improved upon his previous years here. Which is fine in one respect as I still think he's a top player and never let us down.

Time will tell but the main thing is we should hope that we've spent his salary wisely as i don't think hooker will be our post Clark problem

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Clark undoubtedly still has a lot to offer but would we be happy if we had given him a 3 year contract? I suspect not.

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Been a very good player for us. Without knowing the the actual finances & how fit Clark's body looks from those that see him everyday we are a bit in the dark on the decision not to keep him. Personally I'd guess his body will struggle to compete at the top for another 3 years ... but who knows.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "Been a very good player for us. Without knowing the the actual finances & how fit Clark's body looks from those that see him everyday we are a bit in the dark on the decision not to keep him. Personally I'd guess his body will struggle to compete at the top for another 3 years ... but who knows.'"

Absolutely. Hence why it’s better to let them go a season too early than a season too late.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Clark undoubtedly still has a lot to offer but would we be happy if we had given him a 3 year contract? I suspect not.'"


Clark's main attributes are his running from dummy half and his defence - the first is on the wane. Clark is still a good player but he lacks Roby's passing, kicking and organisational skills. I don't think he'll scare me from an opposition fan point of view.

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Quote: ratticusfinch "Clark's main attributes are his running from dummy half and his defence - the first is on the wane. Clark is still a good player but he lacks Roby's passing, kicking and organisational skills. I don't think he'll scare me from an opposition fan point of view.'"


Personally I think he will excel running off the back of Makinson, Percival, Walmsley carries. Though I think given the likely value and length of the contract, as well as Walker needing to develop, it was the right move.

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We have been very fortunate over the last couple of seasons to have both Clark and Walker on our books but with Walker now worthy of a better deal, and Clark still with a couple of good years left in him, I don't think that any club could justify having them both. Walker is the future and Clark was looking for that extra risky year, so right decision (if indeed it was our decision to make).

Next season, as long as Walker is fit, we can either go with Dwyer as interchange (which worries me) or with a more versatile 'make-do' hooker such as Powell (actually a recognised 9 but also a half / 13), Crowther or Ratchford. The problems occur when Walker isn't either available or fit.

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Quote: St Helens Wolf "We have been very fortunate over the last couple of seasons to have both Clark and Walker on our books but with Walker now worthy of a better deal, and Clark still with a couple of good years left in him, I don't think that any club could justify having them both. Walker is the future and Clark was looking for that extra risky year, so right decision (if indeed it was our decision to make).

Next season, as long as Walker is fit, we can either go with Dwyer as interchange (which worries me) or with a more versatile 'make-do' hooker such as Powell (actually a recognised 9 but also a half / 13), Crowther or Ratchford. The problems occur when Walker isn't either available or fit.'"

I don't see how walker not being fit will cause us problems when we have just signed a highly decorated number 9.

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In comparison with other positions in our squad our No9. is not a problem. Walker (England), Dwyer (makes breaks for fun bit mad at times but aren't we all) Powell (Done it all) ... Crowthor (Good back up). Bring it on.

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No return for Mikaele then, sorry if i've it being talked about already.
So we're running with:
Vaughan
Musgrove
Harrison
Philbin
Bullock
Kasiano
Dudson
Green
Thomas.

Not the worst forward to have to be honest, dudson for me is the only question mark for me. I'm hoping Burgess is the kick up the butt he needs to click him in to gear. As while he's never been a world beater, at times he's been a good steady prop that plays good minutes. If we can get him back to being just a good club prop it means we don't have to over play vaughan etc

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Quote: karetaker "Talking of coaching was there anything behind the rumours of Matt King or Sinfield coming as coaches.'"


Yes. Matt King was offered a position but chose to stay at the Roosters and is assisting Madge at NSW. I've not heard anything about Sinfield.

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Quote: Or thane "No return for Mikaele then, sorry if i've it being talked about already.
So we're running with

There's another Aussie to go on there, the guy we signed from Newcastle Knights (hopeless with names....)

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Quote: Mr Snoodle "There's another Aussie to go on there, the guy we signed from Newcastle Knights (hopeless with names....)'"


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Quote: Captain Hook "Clark undoubtedly still has a lot to offer but would we be happy if we had given him a 3 year contract? I suspect not.'"

Clark 3 year deal or Dwyer 2 year deal? I know which one I'm picking and it's not the bloke who hails from Wigan.

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